Pacquiao > Chavez

Taylor was an orthodox fighter, first off. Second, he had height and mass on his side. Third, he was faster than Pacquiao, easily. Fourth, his combination punches were more voluminous. Fifth, Chavez wasn't even in his prime in that fight. Sixth, Taylor could actually fight on the inside having been bred a Philly fighter. Seventh, Taylor, despite his size advantage, was done by the 12th with severe damage done to his body and face.

If you think it was a bad call, how do you explain away the rematch after he'd gained a slew of good wins?

Show me Chavez infighting with his hands low and getting tagged flush as a result. I'll wait.

While you're at it, show me a pre-Taylor Chavez walking into any kind of shot the way Hatton walked into Manny's. I'll wait.

In the mean time, chew on these.

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no he's just kinda slow. It's not that he doesn't know anything about boxing, it's just that he isn't one of the brightest people out there

 

Never said there was a huge difference, but Taylor complimented his inside fighting (something Pacquiao doesn't have) with his broader and taller frame. Manny isn't going to fight like that. Height and reach wasn't debated. It's an issue of styles.

Oscar was a stationary target with no head movement and a split guard and flat feet. You can't compare that to the stuff Taylor got away with throwing against Julio. He ain't Joshua Clottey.

You haven't "got me", any person who watched boxing will tell you that version of Julio was past his best. Simple fact.

Manny's volume doesn't compare. And again, he operates competently on the inside.

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6:13 shows me Chavez slip and roll a punch of right hands from Roger Mayweather. Has nothing to do with what Manny would do as a short southpaw. Even when keeping Chavez at bay somewhat with his jab (which wasn't even landing), Roger fell victim to Julio slipping while advancing to land the harder right hands and left hooks over the top. What were you trying to show me?

Your argument is again unraveling. If Manny gets cornered, he's ****ed. And in the center of the ring, it's anyone's fight. So get past those two stylistic truths and you might get somewhere, because right now you've got nothing but two hands and a fierce agenda.

 

Random, but Floyd has walked down plenty of fighters. Judah, N'dou, Corrales, Mosley, Gatti, Mitchell, etc. Morales came forward and had success, as would Chavez.

atsch No. You're turning into the ******* Michigan_Warrior with this thread right here. He even made wack comparisons with Meldrick Taylor.

 

The overhead camera angles on that MT video are ****ing MINDBOGGLING. Fastest Hands Ever. Right up there. ****.

 

Manny shut Mosley out, knocked him down, had him running. Floyd did none of the 3, Canelo 1.

 

But he's faster Bogo!

Faster!

 

I can only wholeheartedly agree.

Manny Pacquiao is far great than Julio Cesar Chavez....Junior

 

Hey pacturd....
Why didnt Manny fight Shane after he KO'ed Margarito? Hell why didnt he fight Margarito after the Cotto fight? But thats another matter, the fact is Shane somehow developed footwork and defense accompanied with head movement against Manny. He was running..but he was also stepping back and popping Manny with the jab. Every thing I just explained to you are characteristics Shane doesn't posess. That's the mind **** part of it.

Manny cant in-fight for **** and he can't cut off the ring. He has no jab. His best punch is a lead left from the outside mostly to counter his opponents jab. He drops the opposite hand when throwing any punch which leads himself open. He always has to regather his balance because in his lunging to cut distance between a JMM and not a stationary opponent; (breath) leads all his weight and momentum to focus on his lead leg which greatly limits the movement he can make in recovering. He makes too many mistakes. Chavez could possibly kill Manny if they fought. Chavez would tear Manny's body up and as we all know Manny drops his hands to protect his body and Chavez was capable of going back up top. He could also land timed rights from outside but still fought tall. I implore you to get off Manny's nuts.

The bottom line is Chavez is much like JMM but much more effective, smarter, better ring generalship, has sharper, crisper punches, more accuracy and better timing, uses his height, hands of lead that "damage" his opponents, better chin, toughness, punch selection(can throw basically every punch and if landed it will hurt) and a bit more speed. :hi:


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I'd rather be the fighter that stays awake than the one that is knocked unconscious.

 

Floyd >Marquez> Manny

Two have the will to finish fights while one has lost multiple times and has been ko'd three times.