Roy Jones: Was he the best ever?

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In my experience as a long time observer of the sport, there has never been anyone as amazing as Roy. I am aware that these wrinkled old farts and arrogant know nothing groupies from IBRO and Cyberboxingzone like to downplay his brilliance because they naturally hold a grudge against anyone they think was better than the fighters from their era.

    Deep down these punks KNOW Roy would have toyed with the Billie Conns of the world. With the exception of Robinson and Pep, there was really nothing out there that they had.
     
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  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I don't know, I think it's a close call between Roy, Terry Norris and Hector Camacho. Tough one.
     
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  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're being extremely truculant.
     
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  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :roll: Perhaps you could've used a more suitable word.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Roy has a case.

    He's top 25 for sure.
     
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  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No....his talent may be. But while he proved alot in the ring, he didn't prove enough to make this statement. Or even close really.
     
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  7. Sweet Pea

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    #27 for me, and he's my 2nd favorite fighter of all time.

    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Muhammad Ali
    6. Ezzard Charles
    7. Roberto Duran
    8. Mickey Walker
    9. Barbados Joe Walcott
    10. Barney Ross
    11. Ray Leonard
    12. Pernell Whitaker
    13. Willie Pep
    14. Benny Leonard
    15. Joe Louis
    16. Archie Moore
    17. Bob Fitzsimmons
    18. Joe Gans
    19. Tony Canzoneri
    20. Carlos Monzon
    21. Gene Tunney
    22. Marvin Hagler
    23. Alexis Arguello
    24. Carlos Ortiz
    25. Emile Griffith
    26. Kid Gavilan
    27. Roy Jones Jr.
     
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  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy has a damn good case. He is top ten easy and probably top 3. And you will never find him pretending that he is Mary Poppins.
     
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  9. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    not the greatest no way, i mean do u mean the greatest at around his weight?i mean i would give him a shot in his prime against anyone around his weight at any time. His legacy was baldy hurt with his defeats against tarver and johnson if he retired after ruiz he prob would have gone down as a top 10 15 in many peoples list of all time greats
     
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  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Sugar Ray Leonard, of course.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    :lol:

    Don't you feel like a fighter needs to prove himself against the best before we can start calling him one of the three best ever?
     
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  12. Sweet Pea

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    I don't know, considering Camacho beat him in his prime.
     
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  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have got to be shitting me. Kid Gavilan and Emile Griffith beating out Roy Jones, the supreme artist? Ortiz? These are some good fighters but they are barely above the like of James Toney or Hopkins (talent wise).
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Not this bull**** again...
     
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  15. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh
     
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