What, to you, constitutes a duck?

Bowe clearly ducked Lewis.

Post Prison Tyson ducked Lewis (I think Tyson would have been happy to fight Lewis if he was still with Rooney/in his prime, but he was past it after he got out of jail and he knew it.)

Lewis ducked a Vitali rematch (Lewis had every right to retire after the first fight, and he should have announced his retirement immediately after the fight. Then it wouldn't be a duck. The way he dragged it out and waffled on the matter made it into one though.)

Quillin, Sturm, and N'Dam have all ducked Golovkin (and Quillin is continuing to do so.) Geale arguably as well, though he can get off the list if he fights GGG before the end of this year.

Bradley ducked Khan.

Berto ducked Mosley.

Manny and Floyd both ducked Mosley in 2009, both apparently feeling it was a better idea to let the old man age a bit before fighting him.

Floyd ducked Manny in 2010 (probably one of the worst examples, especially given that it was to evade a guy he likely would have opened as a big favorite over.)

Leonard ducked Hagler when Marvin was in his prime, then came back and fought him when he saw him slowing down.

 

One fighter avoiding another specifically becuz he knows he'll lose (or thinks he might lose)

Temporary ducking is acceptable when its to build up a potential mega fight, or for what Bradley did... But if the fight NEVER happens, shame...

 

A duck, for me, is when you avoid a fight in the following circumstances:

- the fight is pretty much a done deal, and you back out
- the opponent is your nearest and most logical challenger, and everyone -- media, fans, etc -- is expecting you to face him

 

I used to be guilty of tossing the word around ESB when i first started posting but as i have gotten more into following boxing it is apparent that the word has lost clarity

maybe you think Tim Bradley ducked Khan, he wound up going to 147 and winning a title and getting a huge pay day

Sure he avoided Khan but took a tougher fight

Sometimes it is all down to the money or politics

i dont think there are many out there who avoid out of pure fear

I think Povetkins camp under Atlas didnt pursue Wlad because they knew he would lose and it was smarter to wait

 

you're too good, shane

 

-Faking an injury or lying to get out of a fight to which you have obligated yourself.
-Intentionally offering low market value for an opponent.
-Calling out an opponent repeatedly and making no legitimate offers to make the fight.

Not duck, but suspect:
-Refusing to meet at a legitimate catchweight

 

Shane is too good - Roach on Pac fighting Mosley in 2009, then fighting him 2 years later when Shane was no longer "too good" to fight.

Bowe/Lewis

 

Kessler ducked Miranda

 

A duck is when you turn down the most sensible, and financially lucrative offer available, to fight for less money or a less prestigious fight.

 

Berto? Doesn't family member death by earthquake get you a free-duck? a duck-pass?

Floyd and Manny engaged in a longstanding and very regrettable mutual-duck.

 

I'm really not sure and very uneasy in saying this, but Oscar may have ducked Winky at 154.

 

Other way around.

 

I'm a huge Winky fan, and not an Oscar fan at all.... but I have to admit, DLH did NOT duck Winky Wright. He did try to make the fight happen, but Winky totally priced himself out. That guy lost all kinds of huge paydays for pricing himself out of many lucrative offers, on more than one occasion, and wound up making MUCH less.