Cleverly vs Bellew

Bellew would've won the first fight if Cleverly hadn't punched him in the dick repeatedly. I think he wins a rematch if Cleverly ever decides to step up past european level agaihahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahlolahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

Cleverly's WBO defences have been awful, but Bellew has faced jack **** in the way of opposition since the Cleverly fight. McIntosh was bounced off the canvas by Cleverly years ago, Miranda was a sideshow clown who has no fight left in him and Bolonti is living proof that the rankings lie. Make no mistakes, the ONLY fight Bellew wants and needs in Cleverly. That fight will stay with him forever if he doesn't get a rematch.

 

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Cleverly won it by 2 rounds...

 

I had it even after 10 rounds in the first fight and thought Clev edged the last 2 rounds. I can see a similar outcome in a rematch perhaps a wider decision for Clev.

I really like Bellew but I don't think his power is that great at world level and should probably be fighting at Cruiser.

 

I think bellew won't get a better opportunity than the first fight to beat cleverly.
In liverpool, hostile atmosphere and cleverly got the decision.
I also had it a draw but for me, bellew had to rip the title from cleverly which he didn't.
Although bellew has improved & cleverly has been very inactive I still believe cleverly beats him in a closely matched contest which could be scored either way (again)
Cleverly will have improved mentally from the 1st fight IMO

 

I thought clev won by 2 rounds n think he is defo getting better with each fight, would see clev winning by a bigger margin if they fought again.

 

Think Clev wins the rematch easier. Bellew has improved but he hasnt come on leaps and bounds as some people would have you believe. I also think that Cleverly underestimated Bellew in the first fight and think he would win it more comfortably next time round.

 

From performances after the fight I believe Bellew has improved and Cleverly has remained at the same level.[/quote]


I believe bellew has improved a lot since but he has had the right fights to develop. Hes gone from a domestic fighter to a fringe world level fighter with a high ranking. He still needs a few more better fights yet though.

Cleverly has stayed at the same level because his match ups have. He isnt moving forward so hes not going to improve. I used to like Frank but he is becoming a really bad promoter who just wants to milk what hes got and has no real vision. Clevs a top fighter who could be great if he gets the right fights. But unfortunately i dont think he will.

 

I had Cleverly by 1 and think he'd win again by more, Bellew surpised him last time and still couldn't beat him, if they fought again he'd know good he is and be better prepared for him. Not saying he weren't prepared last time, just think he underestimated bellew a bit.

 

Clev fought with a broken/not fully healed rib apparently.

 

Draw's fair.

I had it 115-113 to Bellew watching live. The same the other way isn't unreasonable, either. Dave Parris... :-(

If they don't rematch it's a crime against British boxing. If it's a world title unification, all the sweeter. It needs to happen eventually, regardless of the hardware involved. (even if Cleverly loses his grasp on the WBO and Bellew never gets one himself, and it's just a 10-rounder or for some lesser prize like the British/Commonwealth/Euro)

 

Agree with this.

Cant remember how I scored it, but wouldn't have been bothered if it had been a draw or narrowly to either.

 

I had Clev winning by 2 and I'd fancy Clev to win by UD if they fought again.

As for Bellew, I think Chilemba will beat him.

 

Tony had a broken hand lad