School me on Mickey Walker

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am interested on some serious thoughts about how great Walker is. I am seeing him included in some P4P top 10 lists, while I have in the past placed him about 15+ or so. This seems consistant with the ESB forum P4P results that we did about 2 years ago where Walker was around 17. Does he have a good argument for top 10, can it be argued to place him ahead of Moore, Duran, Gans etc. Where do you place him and why???

    ESB P4P results and link

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=11083374&posted=1

    1. 1127 Sugar Ray Robinson (34)
    2. 677 Harry Greb (7)
    3. 633 Henry Armstrong (2)
    4. 542 Sam Langford (8 )
    5. 277 Ezzard Charles
    6. 246 Roberto Duran
    7. 239 Muhammad Ali (1)
    8. 179 Bob Fitzsimmons (2)
    9. 157 Willie Pep
    10. 142 Benny Leonard (1)
    11. 118 Sugar Ray Leonard
    12. 65 Joe Louis
    13. 64 [tie] Pernell Whitaker
    13. 64 [tie] Archie Moore
    15. 46 Joe Gans (1)
    16. 40 Roy Jones Jr.
    17. 30 Mickey Walker
    18. 22 Charles Burley
    19. 20 Tommy Hearns
    20. 19 Barney Ross
    21. 18 Packey McFarland
    22. 17 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    23. 14 Salvador Sanchez
    24. 13 [tie] Marvin Hagler
    24. 13 [tie] Sandy Saddler
    26. 10 Barbados Joe Walcott
    27. 7 Jimmy Wilde
    28. 6 Kid Gavilan
    29. 5 [tie] Rocky Marciano
    29. 5 [tie] Eder Jofre
    29. 5 [tie] Gene Tunney
    29. 5 [tie] Manny Pacquiao
    33. 4 [tie] Julio Cesar Chavez
    33. 4 [tie] Carlos Monzon
    33. 4 [tie] Jimmy Bivens
    36. 2 Terry McGovern
    37. 1 [tie] Tony Canzoneri
    37. 1 [tie] Alexis Arguello
    37. 1 [tie] Ike Williams
    37. 1 [tie] Jack Johnson
    37. 1 [tie] Evander Holyfield
    38. 1 [tie} Ruben Olivares
     
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  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I have him #12 behind Pep and it's no doubt to me he was overshadowed by Greb and the much bigger popular heavyweight scene which he ventured, despite his numerous HOF wins. There is a post that perfectly illustrates him somewhere in classic.

    he's been getting a lot of attention recently :good
     
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  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I loved it. Greb really turned me on to looking into the forgottens like Walker, Rosenbloom (200+wins and like 16 KOs!) Loughran, Flowers etc who most likely were second fiddle to Greb and then champ Dempsey as far as praise is spread out.


    You really learn to appreciate theit depth of resume.
     
  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Plus, he could do this:

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  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Puts Clay to damn shame.
     
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Damn I'm happy with that p4p list in the original page. My top15 or so is damned close
     
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can you imagine if that was the only footage we had on Walker ?
    Like they do with the Greb sparring footage some fans would say "look, Walker was amateurish!":D
     
  11. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I did Benny Leonard's. Should I post it?

    I admit, I finished it last night -- when I was sleepy as tits!
     
  12. Nightcrawler

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    good stuff.

    i got walker around top 15. i've always held the greb loss and the controversy of the flowers wins a bit too much against him...it's unfair and he's just fantastic on record and even the footage of him is solid
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    By all means my man. I wish I had the RING mag documenting the best 80 ifghters of the last 80 years.
     
  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I really only have Whitaker higher, Ross lower, Fitz Higher, Ray Leonard Lower and Walker lower, which with all the attention he is getting I think my #12 spot is justified :yep something like...

    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Hank Armstrong
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Ezzard Charles
    6. Muhammad Ali
    7. Ben Leonard
    8. Roberto Duran
    9. Archie Moore
    10. Bob Fitzsimmons
    11. Willie Pep
    12. Mickey Walker
    13. Ray Leonard
    14. Barney Ross
    15. Joe Gans
    16. Joe Louis
    17. Pernell Whitaker
     
  15. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Happy to see Roy Jones in the top 20 ! :happy :happy