The Official "Is Juan Manuel Marquez on Steroids" Poll thread

I somewhat think he was roiding

Edit: Marquez is an excellent fighter, no doubt he won the 3rd fight...but that out of nowhere build and that 1 shot knockout...it does raise questions. To be fair he has never failed a drug test, but we also can't be delusional and ignore the fact that they're are plenty of drugs on the market that can't be detected yet.

 

Australian Rules Football has been and had the most amazing Testing and it just came out through a Players association that Essendon Football Club made players sign a waiver form to say the club is not responsible for the injections they were taking and it came out now there is going to be a full blown investigation.

But that to me means they had been shooting up with stuff they dont know and the media dont know and they never or not player tested positive last year or the year before.

So that means they have learnt how to beat the system.

 

So are we to believe Marquez has Marion Jones old steriod dealer as a training coach and he is clean.

ARE WE THAT STUPID AS FANS.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...ada-is-called-in/story-fnca0u4y-1226571657216

It seams that to me there are ways to beat the tests now just like 10 years ago and before that.

 

I agree, but you don't find it strange how he seems to be punching harder at this stage? I'm not saying for certain that he's been doping, he's always gave Manny fits and wobbled him before..but this was a whole different level

 

The amount of stupidity contained in this thread is scary:scaredas::-patsch

 

I don't know. Why did Pacquiao lose? because he didn't respect Marquez's power. In all 3 fights he has eaten up all of Marquez shots, buckled a few times but never looked like getting KTFO.He probably expected to take Marquez's shot in the 4th fight but he couldn't really.


Could it be Pacquiao at 33 has slowed down and Marquez at 39 is punching like a mule? Marquez was punching so much harder.Heredia's stuff probably did go to his system but give credit to Marquez because he worked his butt off.He got the shot the he worked on time and time again in the gym.

Marquez has already beaten Pacquiao, imo 3 times. But wants to KTFO PAC.He needed to punch with extra venom. For the KO he is after, he needed Heredia, cause he looked crap in his previous fight prior to his 4th fight with Pac. Heredia knows his stuff and Marquez benefited.

But Marquez's IQ and boxing skills is head and shoulder above Manny's. Plus he has the best trainer in the game.Marquez won 2 or maybe all their fights prior to the 4th. He just needed a bit of help to get that elusive KO against Pac.In closing he schools Pacquiao anyway..Peds or no peds. But got robbed!

Simple fact: Marquez is the better BOXER, period.

 

atsch

With all the strength and conditioning coaches in the world, why did he have to pick one with a cheating background?
Has Marquez been knocking speed bags off it's screws in the past? (He put on weight and flattened one while trainning for Floyd but did he ever knock it off it's screws)
Since all you say is it is hard work and 4 months of concentrated muscle groups, can Morales/Barrera do it as well, and if so why won't they?
Why aren't there other fully defined 40 year olds out there?
Before this strength and conditioning coach, has Marquez ever knocked poochiao to the ground? yet in their last fight he does it twice? (He has popped poochiao perfectly in the grill in the past as well yet he never went down)
Has Marquez punched at 1300 pounds of force in the past?

 

Common sense, yes.

 

ure only half right

 

I know Floyd so what's so bad about reppin someone you know? Want to call me a "yes" man so be it, at least I know the guy and reppin ma dude. You on the other hand, are just a ****** like smokin joe who wishes they knew poochiao/pee pee man

 

I believe so. Marquez is a smart man, he knows Pac won't take a test so he'll say he'll take anything. Honestly, it's ****ed up but anyone fighting Pac is in a position to cheat too easily.

 

Doesn't matter. Would still have KD'd and KO'd Pac that night.

What was a highly questionable tho was in insane muscular built.
It's like his balls only started producing massive amounts of testosterone at his age right now.