definition of "close but clear"

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  1. Kurushi

    Kurushi Active Member Full Member

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    Just wondering about this term. I kind of feel like a fight can't be close if it's clear and can't be clear of it's close. So, when people use this term, what kind of point difference are they talking about?
     
  2. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    one guy wins the first 7 rounds irrefutably then loses the next 5 its close but its clear
     
  3. hammerofthor

    hammerofthor Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto v Mosley is a good example of close but clear IMO
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

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    Miguel Cotto vs Mosley

    Perfect example i think. 7 clear Cotto rounds. 5 clear Mosley rounds
     
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  7. Kurushi

    Kurushi Active Member Full Member

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    Okay, so it's less about the final score card and more about how significantly the balance of the fight shifted? I'll have to watch the Cotto/Mosley I guess but 7-5 even in that order sounds like a close fight to me.
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Matthysse/Alexander in favor of Matthysse is a great example. It was only a mere 1 point win, but it was a very clear 1 point win that however many times I watch it, I will always come up with that same score.

    Anything that is decided by 2 or less points but there is no way you could really score it any closer. Ala Mayweather vs. Castillo II, 7-5, close but clear. (even their first fight for me, but hey, enough people say they thought Castillo won for me to respect that)

    Also, you could say a fight that was, say, 8-4 but the rounds were competitive, etc, could be described the same way. Ala Pacquiao vs. Marquez III, 8-4 JMM, close but clear. Clearer in this case than the above example. Same with Trout/Cotto, 8-4, close but clear (somewhat close scoring, close action in rounds Trout won, close... but clear).
     
  10. MVC

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    Mat/Alexander was one of the recent good ones.
     
  11. ripcity

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    A fight with 8-4 and 7-5 scores with no rounds in dispute.
     
  12. |A|C|S|

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    could say Pascal vs Hopkins I
    Pascal got 2 10-8 rounds and won 2 more rounds
    then Hopkins won like 8 in a row so he won by 2 points
    but it was impossible to give it to Pascal but was close ln the card
     
  13. Kurushi

    Kurushi Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, that actually makes sense. A fight might technically be close on the scorecards but if there's next to no general disagreement then it's clear who the winner is. In the context of a consensus that makes sense.
     
  14. bballchump11

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    good example
     
  15. Scar

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    Hopkins vs Taylor II