Serious debate: Can Froch be finished? Can Kessler do it? How good is Carl Froch?

I don't think so. I think the world knew just how pampered both of those fighters were. Especially Bute. And Abraham is average at best. Going into those fights, plenty of knowledgeable people said the same thing. The fact that Carl Froch who isn't blessed with boxing skills beat Abraham in a punch perfect fight, tells you all you need to know about Abraham.

Bute is no doubt one of the most pampered paper domesticated blanketed champions this world has ever seen. Everybody knew he was fragile and protected, and the first time he was out of the comfort zone, he got demolished.

We won't even talk about Mack. What an awful laughable fight that was, the moment it was announced, mandatory or no mandatory, that was a pathetic fight and a gimme.

And those are Froch's last two fights, Bute and Mack, and people are saying Froch has improved immensely?

Personally, I just dont see it. And I won't be looking at either of those fights to see the improvements. I think people are over rating Carl Froch simply because he fights the best and he is a warrior. His record of recent isn't actually that great at all. Schooled by Andre Ward, schooled by Taylor for 11 rounds, squeezed through Dirrell, MD over Glen Johnson, beat by Kessler.

And in between some of those, beat Athrur Abraham in a punch perfect performance against a predictable and one dimensional fighter. And blitzed Bute and Mack in the last two fights.

Carl Froch NEEDS to win this next fight IMO.

But I will say that Froch was always a slow starter, and that seems to have improved a bit.

 

I agree Smog.

I just dont think Froch is untouchable, and the older he gets, the less huge shots he will be able to take. Thats the same for any fighter. Froch clearly has great punch resistance, but I still think he can be got at. I'm picking Kessler to win this fight surprisingly by KO, or by a close SD. But I would not be surprised if Carl pulled it of either, because he needs to win this fight more than Kessler, and avenge the defeat.

But I've said from day one of this fights announcement, I can see Carl Froch going down at least once in this fight. Win or lose it. Froch has to be caught of guard, but he is also a master of seeing the oncoming punch, if he doesnt see it, he goes stiff legged. I've seen it plenty of times.

A well timed body shot may put him down! But equally, a well timed uppercut or short quick hook to the head may do the trick for Kessler. But he MUST follow it up.

 

I'm not the only one :good

Boxing is abut opinions.

In my opinion, Bradley beat Pacquiao. Ward schooled Froch for 12 rounds. And Taylor dominated a fight for at least 9-10 rounds, and threw it all away. Credit for Froch for keeping in there and going to the final bell. But he was outclassed for the vast majority of the fight. And in my estimation, that is classed as a schooling.

 

Froch was completely demoralized, you could see it written all over his face. He was in denial, disbelief even. Even raising an arm at the end of a fight. Froch wont admit it, because he is to proud and stubborn a man, but deep down he knows it, he couldn't hide it.

He actually lives by the 10 Warrior commandments. He will never admit Andre Ward did what he did. He couldn't even bring himself to say it at the end of the fight, instead shifting the focus to "I didnt feel like me in there"

Wasn't saying that before the fight though was he? "Best shape of my life" He can't knock me out, I can knock him out though"

Like Mayweather and Broner, Ward is of the same cloth. They all have a plan before the fight, and crumble during the fight. Nobody has done it before, what makes you think your the one who can do it now? Unless your special and blessed with the same level of skills, your better of keeping your mouth shut until after the fight. Being quietly confident is the key to beat these fighters, and when they switch, you keep up and switch to.

But no, every single fighter gets early success, and then fight the same way from the 1st to the last, and then wonder why they got figured out?

In your opinion, Froch was never schooled by Ward. So tell me, what is a schooling? Lacy vs Calzaghe? That wasn't even a schooling, that was more than a schooling.

Ward schooled Froch. End of. It is what it is, nobody can change it. Not even Carl, unless he gets a rematch to change opinion. But the same will happen again. He will fall short. Ward is another level.