Train for boxing competition, not for recovery

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by dealt_with, Feb 26, 2013.



  1. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    So would it make sense to run in 3 min intervals? Whilst making an effort to do it as fast as possible? Or is this more aimed at mimicking the demands of an exchange?
     
  2. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    They dont run for the whole 90 minutes.From studies i read most of the game footballers:
    40 percent of the time walk
    15-16 percent stand
    15-16 percent walk
    20-25 percent walk
    2-3 percent sprint
    3-4 percent doing specific moving
    So fartlek would be the best idea for them as well as doing interval running with specific distance(400 m,800) so on.
    Damn my english sucks.
    Dealth am i right here?
     
  3. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting Topic, its finding a solution :D.
     
  4. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By intervals I mean slow/fast running. That can be any combination/degree. When I do them it's usually jog 800/sprint 400 for 30min. Progression to 400 jog/400 sprint, then finally 400 jog/800 run (that's getting out of the optimal range for boxing, though).

    On a sprint day it'd either be hills or 50-200m sprints with walking in between, stopping when the times start to increase significantly.

    The benefit of this type of training is that the interval runs remove lower-body soreness from your workouts and sprint sessions, while simultaneously improving your recovery between rounds.

    Like i said, it'd be awesome if you could sprint everyday but you can't. Boxing can be done every day since there's so much variety. You can have an intense skill session that doesn't leave you extremely fatigued. Some days you might do mostly floorwork and circuits, though. That's the kind of day you want to follow up with an interval run the next morning.
     
  5. JDK

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    :lol: Switched between primary doctors and both were a little weirded out that my pulse was close to 40 as well. After labs, they figured it was simply the type of training involved.

    So, Dealt, what exactly would you categorize as high intensity conditioning? And why not several days a week?
    I mean, just about everything we do at they gym is at a high intensity setting which leads me to believe it could be burning me out. Just curious.. where exactly do we slow down?
     
  6. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In between sprints.
     
  7. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It surprises me, this stuff was elementary and being done 40 years ago. But its not in certain ways correct. Theres better ways been found to accomplish Fitness, and staying uninjured, with better results, across the Board. Mind its taken 15 years of Tests to find out and eliminate doubt.
     
  8. Johnstown

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    whats old is new again..but no one realizes it is old....


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  9. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    All of that is interval training, a 400 metre sprint is as intense as you can get. Your intervals are way harder on your body and you'd need more recovery from them than your 'sprints'.
     
  10. Johnstown

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    if you are in good shape couldn't you sprint 800 meters as well....however if they are true sprints you will likely need to totally rest..not jog
     
  11. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There's no way to stay uninjured unless you very carefully monitor training loads in a periodised plan. Even then you're going to get injuries every now and then, it's just the nature of interrupting homeostasis and causing adaptations. What are these 15 years of tests?
     
  12. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    An 800 metre run isn't a sprint.
     
  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You can and should perform high intensity 3 or so times a week, you need to allow your body time to adapt to the stress. Anything that builds up lactic acid and causes you to fatigue is high intensity, anything that really gets your heart rate going. In a boxing environment everything is usually high intensity apart from skill work. It's really not that simple though, your training status and the total volume of your work makes a big difference as well.
     
  14. Johnstown

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    Ehhh i guess..but really..even the best conditioned 400 meter running can't maintain top speed the whole time...in fact I think the time a person can actually run at top speed is 20 seconds. Which is why, I would guess, a 200 can be even faster per 100 meter sprint than a 100...but a 400 meter will never be faster splits than a 200....

    anyhow..the olympic record for a 400 is 43.18....for a 800 it's 1:40.91. I guess that is a pretty good drop off by splits.....but you are still pushing pretty hard on a 800 and it has the benefit of being about 2 mintues (for a non olympic but good top athlete) which at least for armature is a round.

    But i guess maybe that is still a bit too slow to qualify as a sprint.
     
  15. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. Gotta work on word choice. There's a very significant difference between me sprinting 50-200m and 'sprinting' 400m. The 400's are at a tempo run pace. You just run hard, you don't throw your head down and try to rip up the ground. It's a much different pace than a 400m race. It's actually about the same pace I would use in the middle 400 of an 800m race.

    Either way, end result is always soreness disappears rather than builds up.

    On a sprint day the end result is I hate my life, want to die, throw up, etc. And the next day it feels like I was doing heavy squats. Which is why I would do an interval run the next day.