Wladimir vs Mike Tyson Prime-4-Prime

WILLOWONE · Feb 21, 2011

SILENCER said: ↑

BALLER IS HURTING BADLY...

every time someone mentions Prime Tyson within 1 round I have to step in and pop the bubble by refreshing the memories:

And although Tysons KOloss has been described as one of the most shocking upsets in modern sports history it was NOT a fluke: It was because Iron Mike Tyson was in reality Tiny Mike Tyson (510)

Lets check what happened when Tyson met
BETTER+TALLER (i.e. > 63)opponents:

First time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Mitch Green (65.0) > UD10
Second time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·James Bonecrusher Smith (64.0) > UD10
Third time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Tony Tucker (65.0) > UD12
Fourth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Buster Douglas (63.5) > Tyson gets KOed
Sixth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Lennox Lewis (65.0) > Tyson gets KOed
Seventh time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Kevin McBride (66.0) > Tyson gets KOed

Now, what he achieved career-wise DESPITE his size is remarkable. But to claim that he would beat every opponent within 1 round (including modern heavyweights like ·Wladimir Klitschko) is simply ignorance of his CAREER FACTS.

The ONLY time Tyson scored a knockout against a taller+better opponent was against ·Lou Savarese (46-6). But that was some strange KO (Tyson was lucky he wasnt disqualified) and Savarese came from a loss after a 1-year-layoff. So its hardly a proof for Tyson, the Goliath-killer.

Lets also quote a trainer who has eyewitnessed both Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko:

Question:
You have worked with a lot of world class fighters. Is Tyson the hardest puncher you have ever seen or should I say felt?

Freddie Roach:
Punch for punch I think Klitschko probably hits a little bit harder but Mikes much more explosive.

that was an extract from an Interview with Freddie Roach.

Tyson struggled with guys much worse than Wladimir, such as Bonecrusher Smith. If Wlad employed his hugging style he would have a chance of decisioning him. Tyson is smaller and weaker than Peter, and so Wlad would have an even easier time controlling him in the clinches. Tyson always had trouble with a god jab, even Larry Holmes, who was in the worst professional shape of his life (coming off a two year layoff with no warmup) gave him some trouble for a few rounds with the jab.

The only thing that makes this fight extremely dangerous for Wlad is the chin. It's conceivable he would get blown out by a hook, but unlikely if he fights like he did against Peter.

Tyson was the product of careful matchmaking and a great hype machine; a man who was too reliant on intimidation for his success He never fought Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield in his prime or even a comebacking George Foreman. That tells you something Tyson was unproven in his prime.

Look at the cab drivers and crack wh*res Tyson was knocking out to get a title shot I mean what big name did he beat? A 38 year old Larry Holmes!?? A small and rusty Michael Spinks?! If people are gonna say Rocky Marciano knocked out a past-it Joe Louistake a long hard look at devastating Tysons early opponents.[/QUOT

Hear what your saying but remember this counts both ways,Tyson with the exception of the Douglas(who he never trained hard enough for) beat all these guys in in prime UD.Lewis, MCBride please these don't count no matter what anyone say's Tyson was finished post jail. Klitschko has never fought anyone with Tyson's expolsive aggression.The reason Tyson never fought those guys with the exception of Foreman is while Tyson was at his is absolute peak no-one had heard of these guys.he was on another level.
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RonnieHornschuh · Feb 21, 2011

Fighting Weight said: ↑

Very poignant.

Every guy that beat Tyson in his prime had a decent chin, WALDO doesn't, end of argument.

Tyson KO1....absolute nailed on certainty.
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Buster Douglas - decent chin? :think

the_baller · Feb 21, 2011

RonnieHornschuh said: ↑

Buster Douglas - decent chin? :think
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What? He didn't?

When he lost to Holyfeld that was more because he fat, lazy and out of shape than it had to do with his chin. Really he just quit that fight.

the_baller · Feb 21, 2011

SILENCER said: ↑

stop trying to make out buster douglas was a herculean opponent

prior to fighting tyson:

he barely got by randall cobb.he was knocked out out by a dire fighter called mike white.and was losing to the likes of jesse ferguson and tony big fat ****er tucker....
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Look, if you Klit fans hate boxing so much why not watch some other sport? Jeez! It obviuos your hatred for the sport the way you constantly try to **** on boxing greats to prop up your perverted man-lust for the Klitschkos.

It's SICK! Thats what it is!!!!:-(

Marciano · Feb 21, 2011

Prime Tyson Ko any Version Of Wlad in 3-5 Rounds no Doubt

BobNWeave · Mar 4, 2013

Wladimir is a top 3 ATG Heavyweight and top 10 overall, but he just couldn't deal with Prime Tyson's head movement. Neither could Lewis.
Wladimir is a great fighter but he's slow as molasses and twice as thick. Prime Tyson's head movement is a nightmare for tall fighters. I think Tyson's head movement+bob and weave will probably cause Wladimir to lose the fight. It's no shame though because Wladimir is top 3 ATG Heavyweight but Prime Tyson's nightmare is just a nightmare for tall fighters. Tyson ducked so low against Berbick his lips touched the ground and he made Berbick look stupid.

Chex31 · Mar 4, 2013

BobNWeave said: ↑

Wladimir is a top 3 ATG Heavyweight and top 10 overall, but he just couldn't deal with Prime Tyson's head movement. Neither could Lewis.
Wladimir is a great fighter but he's slow as molasses and twice as thick. Prime Tyson's head movement is a nightmare for tall fighters. I think Tyson's head movement+bob and weave will probably cause Wladimir to lose the fight. It's no shame though because Wladimir is top 3 ATG Heavyweight but Prime Tyson's nightmare is just a nightmare for tall fighters. Tyson ducked so low against Berbick his lips touched the ground and he made Berbick look stupid.
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:blood

ban.

BobNWeave · Mar 4, 2013

SILENCER said: ↑

BALLER IS HURTING BADLY...

every time someone mentions Prime Tyson within 1 round I have to step in and pop the bubble by refreshing the memories:

And although Tysons KOloss has been described as one of the most shocking upsets in modern sports history it was NOT a fluke: It was because Iron Mike Tyson was in reality Tiny Mike Tyson (510)

Lets check what happened when Tyson met
BETTER+TALLER (i.e. > 63)opponents:

First time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Mitch Green (65.0) > UD10
Second time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·James Bonecrusher Smith (64.0) > UD10
Third time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Tony Tucker (65.0) > UD12
Fourth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Buster Douglas (63.5) > Tyson gets KOed
Sixth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Lennox Lewis (65.0) > Tyson gets KOed
Seventh time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Kevin McBride (66.0) > Tyson gets KOed

Now, what he achieved career-wise DESPITE his size is remarkable. But to claim that he would beat every opponent within 1 round (including modern heavyweights like ·Wladimir Klitschko) is simply ignorance of his CAREER FACTS.

The ONLY time Tyson scored a knockout against a taller+better opponent was against ·Lou Savarese (46-6). But that was some strange KO (Tyson was lucky he wasnt disqualified) and Savarese came from a loss after a 1-year-layoff. So its hardly a proof for Tyson, the Goliath-killer.

Lets also quote a trainer who has eyewitnessed both Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko:

Question:
You have worked with a lot of world class fighters. Is Tyson the hardest puncher you have ever seen or should I say felt?

Freddie Roach:
Punch for punch I think Klitschko probably hits a little bit harder but Mikes much more explosive.

that was an extract from an Interview with Freddie Roach.

Tyson struggled with guys much worse than Wladimir, such as Bonecrusher Smith. If Wlad employed his hugging style he would have a chance of decisioning him. Tyson is smaller and weaker than Peter, and so Wlad would have an even easier time controlling him in the clinches. Tyson always had trouble with a god jab, even Larry Holmes, who was in the worst professional shape of his life (coming off a two year layoff with no warmup) gave him some trouble for a few rounds with the jab.

The only thing that makes this fight extremely dangerous for Wlad is the chin. It's conceivable he would get blown out by a hook, but unlikely if he fights like he did against Peter.

Tyson was the product of careful matchmaking and a great hype machine; a man who was too reliant on intimidation for his success He never fought Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield in his prime or even a comebacking George Foreman. That tells you something Tyson was unproven in his prime.

Look at the cab drivers and crack wh*res Tyson was knocking out to get a title shot I mean what big name did he beat? A 38 year old Larry Holmes!?? A small and rusty Michael Spinks?! If people are gonna say Rocky Marciano knocked out a past-it Joe Louistake a long hard look at devastating Tysons early opponents.
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Wlad just don't have the ability to deal with Tyson's head movement. Hey man did you see the Tyson vs Berbick fight?

Capaedia · Mar 4, 2013

Pick 'em

Marciano said: ↑

ANGELO D´AMATO
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BobNWeave · Mar 4, 2013

Capaedia said: ↑

Pick 'em

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how do you think Wlad would deal with Tyson's head movement?

stanislove12 · Mar 4, 2013

BobNWeave said: ↑

how do you think Wlad would deal with Tyson's head movement?
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others were able to do it... and wlad can't? he will likely just hugh him to death... sure tyson will get in a body punch here and there but thats about it.

Dee · Mar 4, 2013

LOL @ the thread comments. Some people just DKSAB!

Tyson would take out Wlad in less than 5 rounds.

WORST Style Match up ever for Wlad. Not forgetting that Tyson was a beast in his prime.

SugarShane_24 · Mar 4, 2013

The problem is how to deal with the first three rounds of napalm.

Once the 4th rounds begins Wlad would just assert his size and jab and break Tyson down.

Even Lewis had a troublesome round 1 against a badly faded version.

But judging how his chin held up against hard hitters, Wlad has a vulnerability that will put in trouble.

Tyson by stoppage in 2 rounds.

BobNWeave · Mar 4, 2013

stanislove12 said: ↑

others were able to do it... and wlad can't? he will likely just hugh him to death... sure tyson will get in a body punch here and there but thats about it.
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But how will Wlad deal against Tyson's head movement during his peak? Did you see the Berbick fight? Tyson duck so low his lips touched the ground and he made Berbick look stupid?

Do you think Wlad could effectively handle the head movement of a peak Tyson? I love Wlad but he's slow as molasses and twice as thick. I think he and Lennox will both run into big trouble against someone like Tyson's head. Tyson invented the bob and weave and was a master at it during his peak

Sangria · Mar 4, 2013

Wow. Vitali cries uncontrollably as Tyson literally kills Wlad in the ring.

A favorite fantasy match of mine. Tyson KO 3 W.Klitschko

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