Which boxer can bench the most?

Ever consider that your ATGs were competing against other people who trained the same way as them?

 

Broner

 

A proper strength program will, heavy squats work all the stabilising and deepest muscles in the core if done properly and having a stronger neck increases active muscle stiffness meaning less force is absorbed.
You seem to have an outdated idea that weight training is all about muscles and how muscular you look. For an athlete that's irrelevant, weight training properly in a periodised plan is all about enhancing physical performance characteristics, it has absolutely nothing to do with aesthetics. There is a physical side to boxing obviously and there are proven ways to improve power in every sport. Sometimes it's not as obvious in boxing since a punch is a complicated movement and many top pros even punch with less than optimal technique. If you have poor technique the only thing you'll see from strength training is that your ability to push, slap and arm punch improves.
Boxing is just a motor movement, it can be taught to anyone, once you have proper technique then the difference strength/power training can make is massive.
You need to get with the times JG, even long distance /marathon runners do heavy weight training now if they're smart, it's scientifically proven to improve running efficiency and performance. If they did that just 20 years ago they would have been looked at like idiots. It's just the way it is, science shows things and people take advantage of it.

 

Are you inferring that Benny Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson, Charlie Burley, Ike Williams 'n Archie Moore wouldn't be ATG's in any era?

 

If they had the same skills then they would be, with smart modern training and only twelve rounds they'd also be more explosive and powerful these days as well.
You have to remember that their opponents were generally marathon runners in the ring boxing.

 

The best veteran trainers I know, confide they just humor fighters, allowing them to do these 18-wheeler tracker pulls, because the young fighters don't want opponents to have 'n edge; 'n when they flex, they love the rippling muscles in the mirror.

It gives them the feeling they're armor plated. The first liver shot (or one to the solar plexus) disabuses them of that, dw.

 

The thought of a "more powerful 'n explosive" SRR is scary, dw.

 

There is a quote that sums up this argument! "when pitting two athletes of equal size, skill, and will against one another... The stronger will ALWAYS win!" End thread!

 

Been a round the game since the early '40s 'n 'never seen an example of that. Either ya could fight or you couldn't, puny or not.

 

These old timers are living in the stone ages. Stuck in a blissful state of ignorance. There is a reason why all other sports records have been broken again n again. There is also a reason why athletes are bigger, faster, and stronger. The advancements in training methods, sports sciences, diet, and the understanding of the human body. If you were to reincarnate SRR and train him with the all the advancements n knowledge we have now days n them matched him against the 1940's version of himself.... It would be a very one sided contest I'm favor of the modern day version. We would be talking about an athlete that could be literally 3 times as strong as the original version. Everything that made SRR the physical specimen that he was would be greatly amplified by today's training method. You don't need a phd to understand that... Anyone with a modicum of common sense should be able to recognize that.

 

And Tyson & Toney were born that. The other guy had additional help I won't get into, but was tough as hell and always had a great chin. Plenty of boxers and MMA fighters have great big thick necks and look like they should take a house falling on them but can't take ****. These things are tools but your examples don't display your thesis that training enhanced their durability, especially since Tyson didn't lift weights at his peak.

 

You are mistaken in thinking tyson didn't lift weight. He lifted and also used ped. Also might surprise you to know that Chris Areola uses ped. Specificly IGF-1

 

Tyson did not lift as part of his training during his peak years as far as I know. He did however lift post-prison. What evidence do you have of his PED use? And if he did use, well I suspect it came post-prison where he was apparently a more gaunt 195 pounds after being released from prison. It doesn't surprise me about Arreola, nothing surprises jaded sports fans but where is your information coming from?

 

I remember seeing Tyson as a 16-year-old training in Peekskill, N.Y. Even as a teen, he was the same mountain of muscle that he subsequently became as a man. It was all in his DNA, like Mike Weaver.

 

It is much more widespread than u can imagine. People always equate ped n weight training with appearance.