Is Bernard Hopkins the greatest Middleweight of all time?

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  1. Bollox

    Bollox Active Member Full Member

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    ahhhh fukkit, chuck in lightweight and Lightwelter because DLH won ttles in those divisions :good
     
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  2. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :?, you don't need film footage of any great or top level fighters - there is so much footage of other greats one need only "cross" record check to see who fought who, how well they did, circumstances around any loss - questionable or not, weight drained and such things, and last if said fighters stepped up against top fighters out of their own division competing well.

    all this is proof enough for those top men we can't unfortunately see footage of.
     
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  3. rantcatrat

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    What were Hopkins' best wins at middleweight? How do they compare to the guys faced by Greb, Monson, Hagler, Robinson, Burley, Ketchell etc.?
     
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  4. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Couldn't justify putting Him in the Top Five above, Hagler, Monzon, Robinson, Greb, or Jones. Perhaps on the Top Ten somewhere. Even there is tough, so much talent... La Motta, Zale, Tiger, Fitzsimmons, Ketchel, Burley, Walker. The list goes on..
     
    la-califa, Mar 19, 2013
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  5. MAG1965

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    his opponents post middleweight have been better than his middleweight reign, which is ironic since he was older when he fought them, and he lost to half the guys after or maybe a 3rd.. It is hard to rate him, but he is certainly the top 50 ATG.
     
    MAG1965, Mar 19, 2013
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  6. Flea Man

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    No. 5-10 for me.
     
    Flea Man, Mar 20, 2013
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  7. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    among my Top 100 middleweights, God knows there are dozens of them!
     
    thistle1, Mar 20, 2013
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  8. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop it...
     
    RockyJim, Mar 20, 2013
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  9. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top three for sure . Has a good case with all things considered.
     
    hussleman, Mar 20, 2013
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  10. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what things?

    you mean the fact that there's a hundred and fifty years of boxing history to choose from and 3 great periods for MWs to choose from as well.

    Then other contenders here and there! So accounting for all the great champions and at least 30 - 40 great contenders and then a dozen or two more of lesser known greats and forgotten fighters, that places him where I said, among the 100 or so greats.

    though at his natural weight he might not qualify.
     
    thistle1, Mar 20, 2013
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  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sorry but not even close. not technically or talent wise. he didnt have any power but he does have a lot of hustle and some skill.

    where would I place him?

    somewhere within the pack of Basilio, Fullmer, Kalambay, guys like that

    I think Nunn beats him becuz Mike is way too slick N quick, and also becuz Hop is too low on power
     
    redrooster, Mar 20, 2013
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  12. Robbi

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    Top 5 or thereabouts.
     
    Robbi, Mar 20, 2013
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  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hopkins made the weight easy, so he could weigh-in on the same day no problem.
     
    Robbi, Mar 20, 2013
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  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Easily the best
     
    elmaldito, Mar 26, 2013
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  15. Theron

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    One of the best but not the best
     
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