MMA.....explain to a Boxing fan?

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No offence but you have boxing fan boy written all over you.

I love both sports, with a passion.

I will respond to the opening post in detail once I've had this 12 inch pizza

 

Well, I was gonna reply but I think Haggis covered everything perfectly.

 

You've been answered twice but I will try to give my answers. Although I probably don't know as much as Haggis and others, I have been watching MMA for quite a long time.

They aren't really any organisations that can compete with the UFC in terms of popularity or sales, or even in the quality of fighters. That said there are a few other good organistaion, even if they can't compete with UFC. BAMMA is a decent British organisation, Bellator has some good fighters and in Asisa you have a few organisations like shooto(essentially MMA), DREAM, DEEP and others.

Obviously there are elite fighters, just because someone has lost doesn't them they aren't good or even great just like Flea Man says. I hate this attitude, Sugar Ray Robinson lost fights, Willie Pep lost fights, Muhammad Ali lost fights, plenty of great boxers lost fights and its the same in MMA.

Well horses for courses as they, it's not up to me to tell you who you should find exciting to watch. In my opinion though, the analogy isn't realy that fitting. Its hard to compare the two sports really. GSP is probably closest to what you mean, he is technically very adept in all areas but is perhaps not so exciting as some fighters.

Anderson on the other hand, I think is very exciting. Not really in terms of providing 'slugfests' for want of a better word but his fights are usually guranteed excitment. You never know when he will do something brilliant even in fights that maybe are somewhat slow to start, perfect example being the Belfort fight. Anderson's fights are always a spectacle and almost always end in a finish. The way Anderson makes other fighters look like amateurs is a joy to watch.

Well the big one is GSP vs Silva or Silva vs Jon Jones. They are probably the only two that could be described as 'mega' fights.

Yes, the big one being maybe Lesnar vs Fedor or Fedor vs pretty much anyone in the UFC

Fedor is considered the greatest of all time by many, although that number is decreasing as time goes on. That is partially due to his final fights which were not reflective of how good he was and partially due to Silva, GSP and Jones' dominance.

Fedor's achievements cannot be overlooked though. He was undefeated for about 10 years always provided great fights, many of his wins werent shut outs like Silva or GSP's but were dramatic wins where he won against adversity(although he did have his fair share of ass kickings).

As to why he didn't fight in the UFC, who knows except him. Mostly due to M-1, his promotors probably were the main cause.

No idea to be honest, I think most do reasonably well.

I would say that a huge boxing match would outsell a big UFC event but that UFC events would sell higher and more frequently than smaller boxing cards because of the UFC's focus on selling it's brand rather that selling fighters.

Well the negative effects mostly concern the fighters, so I'm not really sure.

Fights are easier to get made, unlike boxing where you have disputes between Golden Boy and Top Rank which mean that we often don't see fights we want to.

Well this is a very subjective and entirely depends on what exactly you are referring to.

Successful marketing and the apparent violence. End of story.

 

You never see 'what is better out of football and rugby' or 'NFL and basketball' do you?

They all involve a ball. Yet are different games enjoyed by many people and many enjoy a few different sports so why is there this competition between boxing and MMA all the time??!!?!?!??!?!?!? :fire (where is the I'm having a marijuana meltdown emoticon?)

 

Well you do see NFL vs Rugby all the time. I agree with you that they are different, but it is natural for comparisons to be made between the two. Boxing is the sport with a rich history and MMA is the new kid in town.

 

in boxing you can not be too many hard fights, it's ruins fighter.
losing in MMA it's not really a big deal, not mentally or physically.
thats also big factor why fighters careers are build up differently.

 

Bull****. Why is that only true of modern fighters?

If anything, Dana loves old boxing, so he matches up his fighters more like boxing used to, prospects fighting solid journeymen types or other prospects, and the champion having to take on the best.

Now I will admit there have been a few exceptions to that as of late, but we're still getting better matchups then you tend to see up and down a boxing card.

Boxing is my no.1 sport. But for sport in the present, I'm much more a fan of MMA than I am of the current boxing landscape.

 

I completely agree!!!

 

olt time boxers had lots of fights, but few fights were tough matches.
im not sure, but are the MMA fighters like Cotto, Vargas, meldrick Taylor, Bowe, mccellan and bunch of others.
done as fighters before they are 30.

 

I misspoke-- I should have said "GSP has drawn the same number of PPV buys as SOME of Mayweather and Paquiao's fights."

These are estimates of UFC PPV numbers for GSP's fights:

01/31/09 UFC 94 GSP v. Penn II 920,000
03/27/2010 UFC 111 GSP vs. Hardy 770,000
12/11/2010 UFC 124 GSP vs. Koscheck 785,000
04/30/2011 UFC 129 GSP vs. Shields 800,000
11/17/2012 UFC 154 GSP vs. Condit 700,000

Can someone pull up Mayweather & Pacquiao's numbers? I am sure that they both beat GSP's best by hundreds of thousands, but some of their fights are gonna match GSP's numbers.

 

Ok this article says Pacquiao's fights with Bradley and Clottery drew around 700,000: http://www.boxinginsider.com/column...rs-4-down-from-3-but-offers-high-hopes-for-5/

 

Stop talking about boxing you haven't got a ****ing clue my friend.