I have never seen a case like Roy Jones Jr. Was it mental?

Don't know why I am responding to a troll, but was this statement made before or after Roy beat the **** out of Woods?

You are the same poster that said Woods was a bum, but now post your idol calling him out.

He must not have been that bad, and Roy schooled him.

Joe was probably just happy Woods won, and the winner of the fight with a LHW belt was not named Glen Johnson.:deal

Joe taking the easy road again.

 

After the knockout he lost confidence in himself, he became hesitant and didn't know what to do when punches were coming at him. That hesitation completely destroys a fighter like Jones. He would only punch when he was confident he wouldn't get hit. In Tarver 3 he built up the courage in the 5th round to throw a combination because Tarver wasn't doing anything. He had no problems against Lacy because he had no fear of being punched. He almost looked like the old Roy in that fight. The physical aspect is overplayed, by Jones himself as well. It was almost purely mental imo. There was an age factor as well to an extent and also the fact that Jones has never been particularly intelligent with his training for fights, that caught up with him. Jones is a very emotional-god driven sort of guy, if he was more scientific minded he could've recovered to what he was with some heavy squats and some work with a sports psychologist. Obviously he's too proud for that sort of thing, he's the sort of guy who thinks "hey this worked when I was 25, it will work now if I have faith in myself and God". I just wish my favourite fighter would hang up the gloves now.

 

He weighed in fully clothed at 193 pounds for the Ruiz fight. Normally he drops from 185 to light heavy so he didn't exactly put on 20 pounds of muscle for the Ruiz fight, maybe 5 pounds if that.

 

Urgh, is it that one with that creepy *******...Mackie Shillstone or something?
I think that guy wanted to blow Roy every time they were together. Disturbing.

 

Him weighing himself on a private scale is more accurate than the official weighin scale apparently....
I kinda gave up arguing with them.

 

Him being on Steroids probably has some to do with it.

 

Timing was everything. Tarver was motivated and in his physical prime and gunning for Roy. He was an opponent that was 100% focused and confident. Roy in the first Tarver fight, although starting to show signs of degradation, from the weight loss mostly, still had what it took to do what great champions do, which was eek out a close decision against a game opponent.

Going into the 2nd fight, many critics were on his case to win rounds more convincingly, so he came out in round 1 and was more active. But that forced aggression backfired in the second round. The KO loss affected him physically, but also affected him mentally moving forward, because he didn't have that "invincible" feeling anymore. it affected his day to day life after the KO loss to Tarver, and his body felt "old" quick. not because of natural age progression, but because of the stress the KO loss caused him.

Roy was hit or miss from that point on, as it was a battle of oneself to manage the stress and bad thoughts of the KO loss, and still stay positive. Roy had too much pride to allow himself to give up and go out like that, and many people criticized him for it, but like SRL said in his fight against Hopkins in 2010, it's the power of the mind for Roy Jones.

 

He was 200 pounds, it's well documented.

For an average camp, he came in between 180-190 with a bit of body fat.

For Ruiz he was a solid 200 pounds. Go and watch the doc, and look at the photo's. He didn't just put 5 pounds on. He tried to lose a bit of fat, before Mackie built him up.

When he came back for Tarver, he still had his physique in the hope of fighting Tyson. So instead of being a little bit fleshy at just under 190, he was a solid 200 going down to 175 for the weigh in. Obviously it wasn't all muscle, but it was an overall loss of 25 pounds.

 

YOu shouldnt **** about with your weight that late in your career, draining after the Ruiz fight finished him off.

He shouldve stayed at heavy fought old Holyfield and Tyson and maybe Tarver at Cruiser, then retire.

 

Even after all whats happened people still love Roy.

 

I've seen the documentary and the photos, I'm a massive Jones fan. I trust the official scales more than his bathroom scales when he's in a circle with his friends in a hotel lobby.
He officially weighed 193 pounds, fully clothed.

"Jones tipped the scales at 193 wearing an estimated three pounds of clothes. That was well above his previous high fighting weight of 175 pounds. But as conditioner Mackie Shilstone, who helped Jones prepare for Ruiz, explained, "Roy came to me at 192 pounds with 8.7 percent body fat. All we did was change the composition; bring his body fat down to six percent"

And there you have it, case closed.

 

It was a case of shattered glass.

 

It isn't case closed.

If you're choosing not to believe that Roy was 200, that's fine.

I've heard Coach Merk say he was 200.

Roy went to Mackie a little bit fleshy, and then turned the fat into muscle.

You say Roy was 192, and on fight night he was 193. That's a difference of 1 pound.

Yet his physique would have been completely different!

Merk said he did nothing but run to burn away the muscle. He also said that Roy left the Ruiz weight on, in the hope of getting Tyson.

So lets say you're right and he was 193. He'd have been a solid 193, with hardly any fat, and he had to get to 175. That's still a difference of 18 pounds.

Roy said after the Tarver fight "That was a hard 25 pounds to sweat! Man, I'm telling you, I never thought it would have been so hard."

One pound of muscle or body fat, is nothing to an average everyday guy. But these are finely tuned athletes, and a pound can make a huge difference.

Look at Dawson.

At the end of the day, Roy had to lose muscle, something that he'd never done before, and it took it's toll on him.

 

THe excuses for Roy, atsch


How about he was coming off the roids, and was making songs how he was smoking and drinking and how he tried to stop but he can't.................