Ali norton 3 myth

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by fg2227, Dec 11, 2007.


  1. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Greetings Cagney!
    So, since Ali was overall better and Kenny would have been KO'd by one of the next few challengers had he become champ then, even tho he won Ali III, he shouldn't have been awarded the decision in a fight he won????? :huh
     
  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I always felt the judges got all 3 fights right........ Norton won the first fight down in San Diego, but Ali edged Norton by a **** hair in Los Angeles and again later in New York....

    MR.BILL:bbb
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I've seen this fight lots of times and it isn't too.difficult to find 8 rounds for Ali. Norton won the action exchanges with his amazing body work but whenever it was quiet Ali jabbed circles around him and landed some hard short rights.

    Very close and I think a rematch was in order to establish supremacy but a close decision for Ali is acceptable.
     
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  4. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a complete robbery. I was at fight, people near me rooting for Ali all (with one crazy exception) thought he lost. Peopel at ringside were a bit surprised but ones who followed sport regularly were not as much--Ali was not going to lose by decision.

    Mecante was a flunky. Great referee my ass. Guy did as he was told by promotors. His explanation of how he scored it for Ali was laughed at by people.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I think Norton has a better argument than Ali for winning but in debatable fights like this, that's ultimately the judges call.

    If you think it preposterous that an Ali scorecard can be rendered than yeah, call it a robbery, I personally don't however.
     
  6. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just re-watched this fight fascinating fight. I can't call it a robbery but can't see Ali winning enough rounds for the Win. I scored it as follows.

    Ali: 1,3,7,9,10,11,13
    Norton 2,4,5,6,8,12,14,15

    I felt round 3 could have been called even. The 13 difficult to score with Ali's back on the ropes one Norton shot looks like it could of been a bomb but I gave it to Ali.
    Miss 15 round fights.
    8-7 Norton
     
  7. smooveonthe88

    smooveonthe88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I absolutely love Ali. He's the reason I love boxing today...but I've watched that fight twice in the past two weeks trying to give Ali that fight. Just couldn't...
     
  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think they went back after the fact and changed their cards. They probably gave him the benefit of the doubt each round. You do wonder though with some fights back in the day where it took a very long time to gather up the cards if some judges were going back and changing scores.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've also had Norton up by a point the two times I've scored it, but then I've also given the 15th to Norton which is debatable. Kenny finished very strongly, but Ali won the first 2,5 minutes of that round.

    So it's a fight that really could have gone either way IMO.
     
  10. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Aren't the judges' cards turned in after each round & thus they can't change previous rounds? Or is that a more recent innovation?
     
  11. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aside from the judges the AP gave the decision to Ali, the UPI had it by one round to Norton, and the WWS boxing panel that went over the bout round by round scored the fight a draw. It was just that close folks and Ken gave the fight away by landing one jab during the first two minutes of the 15th round.