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Floyd Mayweather: Sergio Martinez fight not happening with weight difference

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bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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KillSomething said: ↑

Has anyone pointed out that Ortiz weighs that much, had no issue making 147, is only like an inch shorter than Martinez, etc?

Martinez could make 154 no problem. He fights at 160 bcause he happened to get the linear title on a trip up and found he could dominate the division, which he's done. But he could easily do 154. In my opinion, Trout beats Canelo and Martinez should definitely get him in the ring immediately at 154 to build a case for a Floyd fight.

Floyd definitely doesn't have to fight Martinez, but it isn't the size difference, it's that combined with how good Martinez is. I don't have a problem with Floyd fighting someone else, because to be fair Floyd could easily make 140, but it would be a tremendous win and lock him up for ATG status. But again, it'd be a really high risk fight without the financial reward of an easier fight with Khan, Alvarez, etc.

Still wish it would happen though.
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Ortiz is 25 shorter and weighs less than Sergio

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KillSomething said: ↑

Thought Alvarez wasn't interested (yet), and Cotto has been tied up lately. Sergio's had a nice run of knocking out undefeated challengers at 160 and is in a good position there, plus it's obviously a much easier weight for him. I could only see him fighting Cotto, Mayweather, or the Alvarez/Trout winner at 154. Other than that not worth it, he'd make the same cash knocking out guys at 160 where he's comfortable.
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Sergio just recently said he'd only fight canelo at 160

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Honestly I respected Sergio until recently, snapping at the heels of Mayweather? What planet is he on? He just fought Chavez who weighes 180lbs and is calling out a small man like Mayweather? Fight Canelo, Ward, GGG someone of your own size you argentine roadsweeper

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bballchump11 said: ↑

those same ***s say **** like "Floyd is so scared. He won't even fight Sergio at 150"
and if it's signed, well then you know what is up. You saw all those bumped threads from before the Mosley, Ortiz, Guerrero, etc fights were signed
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but hes not, instead a fat robert guerrero whos claim to fame was defending his super featherweight title

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Jak Boxer said: ↑

Martinez and trout are too big but Cotto and Oscar werent. :rofl If Canelo looks beast, expect the same excuse!

Floyd just doesnt like to take risks, doesnt matter how big they are. He was scared to fight a 5'6 asian .
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Both times the fight failed was due to Pac's cowardness.

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Again....if he wants the fight why won't he campaign at 154 where there is still more money for him even without Floyd and there is better Competition...i dont understand him.

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BUMPY KNUCKLES said: ↑

Martinez should grow some ****ing balls and fight men of his own size rather picking on a well muscled lightweight. Don't see Martinez begging for Canelo or GGG.
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Why isn't Martinez calling out the SOG? :yep

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iceman71 said: ↑

but hes not, instead a fat robert guerrero whos claim to fame was defending his super featherweight title
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yeah and Floyd's claim to fame is winning his super featherweight title at 21

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Mayweather only fights low risk opponents.

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bjl12 said: ↑

Then why did Roach/manny request $10million per pound over weight limit (something the commission regulates) as well as a smaller ring. I think there was one other thing too. Either way, Floyd agreed to all of those requests, all of which are regulated by the commission...

So Roach/manny can make extraneous demands but when Floyd does it he's ducking?
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They made that request because even if Mayweather fails to make weight, they will still go on with the fight though want to get paid well for it. It's very simple and clear really, their offer was "Make weight or pay us", they didn't ask Mayweather to go through a new set of rules for this one fight. It's not like Mayweather wasn't going to make the weight anyway. In a fight of this magnitude, if Mayweather failed to make weight, Pacquiao would still be under insane pressure for going on with the fight. In the end, this is a fight the entire world will tune in for.

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Sweet Jones said: ↑

You mean demanding to use a 25 year old business model, outdoor temp stadiums, that could inject all kinds of variables into pulling off what could be the biggest fight in boxing history? And especially to do so when you KNOW one of the combatants (Mayweather jail time) has a limited window to make the fight?

That doesn't strike you as odd? You good with that?

Come on, bruh. :nono
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the venue was eventually settled and I believe they were going for the MGM. The venue wasn't the reason the fight canceled, it was Mayweather demanding the other side to follow his rules and regulations.

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Bladegunner said: ↑

Then why isn't he fighting there trying to get that mayweather, cotto and Canelo money ? Haha

Silly boy u are.
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Cause Floyd wouldn't fight him even if he made it to 147. :rofl

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Martinez is too big, but washed up cotto and dlh arent!

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Sergio is lucky he's just a little bit bigger, had he been a tad smaller Floyd would tap that ass. No health issue at all, willing to die in the ring type of fight .

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kmcc505 said: ↑

Mayweather only fights low risk opponents.
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but but but where was sergio when he was 21?

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