Why are there no goo heavyweight inside fighters anymore?

Boxing isn't as complex as you're making out. The Klits are a new breed of heavyweight who use their height and stay on the outside. I don't like it but they're effective. Their goal is to win the fight by any means and they do that. Guys like Povetkin, Chambers, Chisora and Haye would be on an even playing field with any 'old school' guy.
The Klits would be doing what they're doing in any era. I don't like it and I don't like to admit that someone can be dominant without an inside or mid range game. I think it's cheap and takes away from the spectacle and sport of boxing. But it is what it is. Even someone as unskilled and slow as George Foreman was a fearsome heavyweight back in the day, if you think bigger more athletic guys who don't take chances wouldn't dominate in that era.... I think you'd have to get your head checked.

 

Inside fighting started to fade in 1970's. Last 20 years got worse due to ******* refs who put self in action, and jump in and yell "Break!" as soon as two guys get close.

 

Probably something to do with the metric system.

 

Break gets called when they hold and hug. Two fighters can lean on each other all night and punch if they want, it's got nothing to do with the refs.

 

Zimbabwetards.

 

I take it you've never seen Cortez ref a fight, dealt

 

I think he is..... Get on that larry.

 

Put a guy like ovech or the kid in the orr era.....Prime gretzky in todays era would miss half the season with concussion with early retirement. All this to say u cant compare era.

 

Poor Jasper. He keeps trying, but he lacks the mental ability of a three year old. So, in his magical world, he admits that all the objectively measured sports are getting better, but:
1. State that boxing and other sports without objectively defined measuring sticks are not.
2. Do this despite the fact that objective parts of the athlete involved, i.e. height weight have grown in a similar measure to the other sports, and
3. Ignore the fact that the golden age boxers he loves so very much struggled against those at a higher weight. Check out Frazier's ko ratio as the weights got higher, it was great against sub 200 lb fighters, poor against 200-215 fighters, atrocious beyond that. Ali was a revolutionary fighter, but he fought a similar way to the K's, he took advantage of his size advantage, which was substantial in his era. His ko percentage followed a similar track of Frazier. None of them fought anyone the size of the K's, not to mention having the power and athleticism of them.
So, wow. I'd say something like, "I want some of what you're smoking", but I really don't want to be that removed from reality, you miss some great stuff.

 

You really can't compare, heavyweights from older times would be cruiser weights today. David Haye would've been considered a monster heavyweight back in the day. He is the same height and weight as Foreman was in his fearsome years. Same weight and taller than Sonny Liston. Now compare their athleticism. Today Haye isn't even considered a large heavyweight. People claiming that the likes of Frazier, Ali and Foreman could just dominate today against a Klitschko are not thinking objectively. I find both Klits boring as **** but I'd bet the house on either one to easily handle those guys. Talk about Frazier against a cruiserweight if you must make comparisons, a guy like Frazier wouldn't be able to do anything in todays heavyweight division. Go back even a bit further and their heavyweights would be considered light heavyweights today. Marciano could easily cut to light heavyweight if he was around today, he wasn't much over the limit as it is. So compare him to some light heavyweights.
Obviously the bigger you are the more your skills are going to suffer, you need to use more energy to do the same amount of work when you are larger. It's like comparing a Klitschko to Andre Ward. It's not a fair/equal comparison.

 

I have to agree with you here. The Klitckos have good boxing skills, they are big men who move and throw jabs. However, especially in the fight with that guy Kevin Johnson who did nothing against Vitali, I thought why he could not bury his head into Vitali's chest and punch away. In that fight, the opportunities were there. Vitali was tiring and on the ropes and Johnson did absolutely NOTHING! There was a post about yelling at the tv and this fight was one of those. Yes, I would think that a strategy against the Klitckos would be to bury into them, make them get tired from leaning on them, and do a lot of infighting. Simply, you can't beat a good large fighter like them staying at the range of their jab.

 

That is problem, refs jump in as soon as guys get close, or if they tie up for a half second.