Margarito vs Ross, Basilio, Griffith, Napoles,Cuevas, Benitez, Hearns, Tito, SRL, DLH

Margo did seem like a h2h beast before Mosley burst that bubble.

He does have a quality won list although each has a question mark

Martinez-green
Cotto-poor stamina
Clottey-broke hand
Cintron-wank

I do think he could cause a lot of people a lot of trouble but we can conclude he was overhyped. He looked sensational against cotto bit Miguel did fade in a number of fights so that was probably more to do with cotto and his limitations rather than Margo and his skills.

 

He stops Benitez 5 rounds earlier than Ray Leonard did. A round sooner than he stopped fellow defensive master, Miguel Cotto.

If that doesn't immediately set off warning bells in your head while you write this ****, you should retire.

I'm not convinced Margarito even makes it to round 7 against Hearns.

 

I think he just looked like what he was, a pretty limited and unspectacular, but legit top ten Welter workhorse with above average durability and stamina.

To me, hiis skills were terrible and he never looked like the kind of puncher, natural fighter or physical force that would overcome that.

All things considered i think he's had a good career for the talent level he had.Plenty of fighters on his level never win a world title.

 

This...my sentiments exactly.

 

Best for best, Cuevas vs Margarito would have been fun as hell. Marg was a massive welterweight, physically strong, took a great shot, relentless, and a real nice body attack. Rather easy to hit though and not a huge puncher himself, which is bad against Cuevas, but that's the one I think he could actually win.

Picking him over Benitez and De La Hoya is just nonsense. Leonard stops him, too. No doubt.

 

True, Cuevas vs Margarito would probably be a classic.

After seeing what Mosley's powerpunching did to him though, i'd bet on Pipino much more often than not.

 

Aye, though I wonder if Cuevas could push Margarito back. One of the things that seemed to surprise most people about the Mosley performance is that he was able to muscle Margarito around quite often. I think that, in halting his forward progress so frequently and so successfully, Shane took a good deal away from Margarito's whole game, and probably threw him off a bit in general. Even post-Forrest, Mosley never had problems with guys who fought straight on and primarily wanted to slug it out in exchanges. He'd get up close, push Margarito back on his heels, and unload with bombs. Never, ever let Margarito get his charge going in full. It took a hell of a beating to finally get him out of there as well. Throw in that Cuevas wasn't ever as durable as Mosley and not as fast (even that version, I'd say), and it's a real winnable fight for Margarito.

Easy to hit against monster hitter is bad though. I think they'd trade wins in a series, and Cuevas is likely to at least shake him up every fight out.

 

Hindsight is 20/20, y'all.

Margarito was coming off his career best win, and it was a SENSATIONAL win. Miguel Cotto was the toast of boxing. The article isn't inexcusable, it was caught up in the hype of the time. A lot of people think guys like Donaire and Golovkin are pretty good right now. History will either vindicate those people, or make them look bad. That's boxing.

Though, his mystique came from his supposedly impenetrable chin, when I was telling all who would listen that Cotto hit him a lot, but he didn't hit him hard...

Mosley showed what could happen when a big, fast welterweight with real power planted his feet and gave it hell. Antonio Margarito's lack of defense is a weakness that doesn't serve him well against truly great fighters, and his chin was not what it often appeared to be when he was being hit pushing other fighters back.

 

Cotto the toast of boxing. Oi.

 

Had just come off a slew of devastating stoppage victories, brutalizing the opposition, including a sterling outboxing of a surging Shane Mosley.

You can look back into ESB's archive, or any archive really. Cotto was unanimously a top 10 p4p fighter, surging in every rating, and was favored to beat Margarito decisively.

He was a damn good fighter, he just couldn't hold his ground to land his powerful shots in the first fight. He cleaned that up in the rematch, but by then, the victory didn't mean much beyond vindication.

 

a 7-5 win for Cotto or even a draw or win for shane is hardly a "sterling outboxing" but to each it's own

 

I scored that fight 116-112 for Cotto, and I question a scorecard having Shane winning. I thought Cotto fought a great fight behind his jab, even if he had some trouble sewing it up late.

There aren't enough Mosley rounds for a win or a draw in that fight, and just about nobody thought so until Mosley beat Margarito.

 

you were being generous to Cotto then imo, and the odds werent even that big for cotto to beat margarito didnt we see what a good pressure fighter could do to him like with the torres fight

 

Cotto was definitely being talked up big around that time. A lot of people were saying that he was the one to beat Mayweather, or at least give him some real issues. Top rated guy at 147, top 10 P4P, and a big name when Margarito broke him down (though naturally, the plaster scandal casts a shadow over the win and Margarito's whole career).

 

I wouldn't call Torres a pressure fighter at all. He was a big puncher prone to periods of inactivity(When most people thought he lost to Mike Arnaoutis, it was because Torres was constantly taking rounds off.) And Cotto was drained at the weight. He hasn't been that fragile again(Pacquiao and Margarito had to absolutely hammer him).

Cotto was around -265 at the time. That's a pretty significant favorite. I'd be happy to rescore the fight, round by round.