Help me create a list of boxing's top 20 current draws (tickets sold, not PPVs)

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  1. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, but in Germany they show the fight on TV for free, with millions watching, and 40k still go to watch it live! Doesn't that mean something? Does it not mean more? Seeing a fight live is much more expensive for one. You pay 15 GBP for the PPV and you can split the cost with two other mates. Buy a couple of cans and some crisps - total cost/person = 15 GBP. You can very easily spend 10 times as much to watch it live in the arena...

    There's nothing quite like watching a fight live, in the flesh!

    It would be good if someone did a PPV top 20 too! ;)
     
  2. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    No,not really.

    Your original question is if a person is adraw or not.

    Whether a person watches from home,or goes to the fight,the person is still shelling out money. Thats what makes them a draw.
     
  3. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes and no. What about the people watching for free on TV. They could be watching something else, so there's an opportunity cost. Why do they choose to tune in for Wlad and not for Stieglitz? It's still free. So should we not count those too? Pays for advertising. Boxers make money from the TV rights fee. The more people watch for free, the higher the TV rights fee, because advertising pays better too. See?

    Where's your PPV list?;)
     
  4. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thread title is misleading. You can't say that you want the biggest draw, and then say the only criteria is tickets sold. Tickets sold do not necessarily tell you about a fighters drawing power. Imagine if fighter A fought in a 80,000 seat stadium, the tickets were $1 a piece , and 78,000 tickets were sold. Now imagine fighter B fighting in a 70,000 seat stadium, the tickets averaged $1,000 a piece, and the fight sold out in under an hour. Who's is the bigger draw? Simply looking at the tickets sold will tell us jack ****.
     
  5. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Bute in his homeland, on National Arena in a decent match up with a belt on the line he could easily sell 30.000 seats.

    You need to keep it real and referee to the existing facts and not our suppositions, tough.
     
  6. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    I did a search for some fights...


    Wlad-Haye +63.000

    Wlad-Chagaev +61.000

    Wlad-Chambers +51.000

    Pacquiao-Clottey 50.994

    Calzhague-Kessler 50.150

    Wlad-Mormeck +50.000

    Pacquiao-Margarito 40.150

    Haye-Chisora 30.000

    Márquez-Fedchenko 25.000

    Hatton-Senchenko 20.000

    Chávez jr.-Martínez 19.168

    Cotto-Margarito II 17.943

    Hopkins-Pascal I 17.743

    Hopkins-Pascal II 17.560


    The next numbers are estimated or reported pre-fight, so can c
     
  7. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    19.000 Vitali against Solís.
     
  8. jcrh22

    jcrh22 Active Member Full Member

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    You can't just do it in average gate though. Froch only gets about 10k to a lot of his fights because he wants to fight in his home town and that is the biggest arena other than a football stadium (which is not a modern one so might not even be suitable).

    Other fighters choose to fight in Vegas as they will earn more money from that selling 14,500 tickets at a higher price than filling a 60,000 seater football stadium.

    The klitschko's don't fight in Vegas as they are not a massive (relative to mayweather, pac, dlh, hatton) draw outside of Germany and Eastern Europe. So they couldn't get 14,500 buying tickets at a minimum of $350's and and $2500+ for ringside.

    In Germany they have a very good fan base but not many fans who would travel to the other side of the world to watch them.

    But I am pretty sure if PAC or mayweather fought in the UK or Germany they would sell the place out. Not because of travelling fans but because of who they are in the sport. They are massive draws! They can go anywhere and sell out. They fight in Vegas because that is where the money is.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're clueless. Nobody outside of hardcore boxing fans in Germany knows who PAC or Mayweather are, they have zero mainstream media exposure in Europe. None at all.

    Mayweather vs Guerrero wouldn't even fill a 5,000 venue in Germany.
     
  10. jcrh22

    jcrh22 Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry, I just thought as a nation they were boxing fans. I just assumed, my bad.

    I can tell you they would both sell out in the UK though.
     
  11. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lewis vs tyson must be up there
     
  12. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather could sell Wembley out against a decent opponent IMO. Not so sure Pacquaio could, but he'd definetly sell 30-40k in the UK, maybe more
     
  13. Berliner

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    Are they really known there? Why? I mean all theire fights are in the USA and therefor in a **** time to watch for europeans. Is it because Hatton got his ass kicked against them?:think
     
  14. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Which one of those are current fighters ?
     
  15. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    The indoor record is for Ali...


    Largest Indoor Boxing Attendance



    Muhammad Ali vs Leon Spinks
    Sept-1978, Superdome, New Orleans, Louisiana. 63,315 where in attendance to witness Muhammad Ali avenge his split decision loss to Spinks seven months earlier


    http://www.ringlivesports.info/boxing/boxing-records/