Updated P4P list (tiered)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Collie, Apr 14, 2013.


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  1. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tier 1 - Mayweather (#1)

    Tier 2 - Ward, JMM, Rigondeaux (#2-4)

    Tier 3 - Martinez (#5)

    Tier 4 - Pacquaio (#6)

    Tier 5 - Wlad, Donaire (#7-8)

    Tier 6 - Broner, Froch, Mares, Bradley (#9-10)



    Something what most P4P lists should look like. It is acceptable to move up or down one tier: e.g. Martinez could be #3 or #4 (tier 2) in your list which would be fine. Donaire could be anywhere from 6-10 but higher would be jumping two tiers which would be pretty hard to argue for.

    Thoughts? What is your updated list?
     
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  2. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez belongs in a tier above Ward, et. al.
     
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  3. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I thought of putting him on tier with Martinez, and may still do so. I guess I reward wins over other P4P guys.
     
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  4. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I mean he should be in tier 2 by himself, not the other way around.
     
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  5. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh sorry, I read that incorrectly. I'm not so sure on that one because then he would be two tiers above Martinez when I think one tier of a difference is fine. I'm happy with JMM at 2-4 (preferably 2-3), I had him at #1 for a while.
     
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  6. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think your tiers 1-5 are pretty good. I like the fact that you had the confidence to rate Rigondeaux high off this one big performance. I also love the fact you didn't drop Pacquiao and Donaire from your list.

    I am not so sure about your tier 6 though.

    Also, I think you have a few too many tiers in your top 10. Wouldn't 2-3 tiers be enough?

    Also think you should tier to 20/25 p4p to back up your bottom top 10 tiers.
     
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  7. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only 2-3 tiers wouldn't work I don't think. If I had something like say

    Tier 1 Mayweather, JMM, Rigo, Ward
    Tier 2 Martinez, Pacquaio, Donaire, Wlad
    Tier 3 Broner, Froch, Mares, Bradley

    that would mean Wlad could move to #1 (up one tier) for example, which just wouldn't be right.

    Tier 6 is a tough one because I think any of those guys could fill the last two spots on the top 10 list. And to be honest, I probably don't know enough about the top 25 yet to make an accurate enough list.
     
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  8. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok. My best advice to you then is not to get a hang-up about the magic number 10.

    There is no reason why we should concentrate on 10 when we rank fighters across weight-classes. If you concentrate on 10, what you end up doing is only ranking the first couple of fighters with any degree of confidence.

    Tiers are great. Have as many as you like but don't concentrate on 10. :good
     
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  9. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P.S. where's Hopkins? Broner but not Hopkins is crazy, imo!

    Hopkins >>> Broner.
     
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  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Martinez isn't a better fighter than Pacquaio.
     
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  11. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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    agreed, except pacman doesn't belong in the top 10 anymore..

    top 10 P4P is for winners and champs..
     
    Sweet-D-Willy, Apr 14, 2013
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  12. 168 lbs

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    Where's Chris John?
     
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  13. 168 lbs

    168 lbs Guest

    Rubbish
     
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  14. CharlesUpham

    CharlesUpham VC and Bar Full Member

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    And here's me thinking it was for the top ten best boxers.
     
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  15. Withwhatsmine

    Withwhatsmine Boxing Addict banned

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    If you believe Pacquiao or Donaire belong in the p4p top 10 than just say you are a *******, I'm not sure how you put losers in front of undefeated boxers, let's say Canelo wins, a win against Trout would be better than Darchinyan in my view, so would you still have Donaire ahead of him? This **** is disgusting, even when they lose it doesn't matter.
     
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