People ask why boxing is on the decline, the aftermath to last Saturday an example

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dedication, Apr 18, 2013.


  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    ^ Oh when fans want to prove their worth by overreacting and filling in blanks that aren't there when somebody says something... It's not my opinion, dude. Read what I say literally without trying to put on the holier-than-thou hat.

    I'm just talking about action fights and fighters and how they relate to popularity. Ivan Calderon is a great example of a fighter tremendously skilled who took little damage en route to easy decision after decision win. He was not admired enough for what he brought to the table by many folks on this site or others and his popularity, financially or through recognition, shows that. Had he made exciting fight after exciting fight, that would be different.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I am simply talking about the overall action in their fights. Not the way they fight. I think that was clear, but perhaps not. I'm not an idiot, I watch all of their fights.

    Jesus, keyboard warriors...
     
  3. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But this what makes boxing so beautiful. There's so many dfferrent styles, and not everyone likes the same one. Everyone has their own preferences.

    Some like mauling, others like counter punching, inside fighting etc... it goes on. So for the media who should always be indifferent to **** on a certain style that is loved by a group of fans is wrong; and only does a disservice to the sport.

    Just because you don't like something doesn't mean others feel the same as you. It's your responsibility being someone with status to respect that and the preferences of all.
     
  4. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Yep, completely agree!
     
  5. Its true. If a casual fan can't appreciate the skills if Rigondeaux and the like, the sport doesn't need them anyway. **** em.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I do agree with this.

    I think the media was focusing on the fact that Rigo's showcase on Saturday, which was great boxing, is the kind of fight/fighter that will make people not interested in seeing him again... True boxing fans will watch boxing no matter what, and especially will watch elite boxers no matter what. The capital they get from us is relatively consistent. The capital from untapped "casuals" is highly important to the business of boxing.

    However, like you say, the boxing media should not give the slightest **** about that.

    I think you're kind of overreacting because what they say is largely true. Rigo will never generate the interest into the sport that he could if he fought like a Brandon Rios, for example.
     
  7. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pre- Rigo vs Donaire, it was written by many that Donaire will knock out Rigo. That didn't happen. So instead of ripping the fighter that was unable to do the knocking out. They **** on Rigo. That's not right at all in my eyes.
     
  8. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like I said, it doesn't matter whether Rigo's style is boring or excitement. Someone out there is gonna love it. It's up to the media to praise what's good about our sport. Not chastise it.

    Again casuals don't run this sport, boxing fans do. So spitting at Rigo, is the same as disrespecting his fans and the sport. You can't run a business like that... you know... shitting on you staff and it's products.... businesses like that never last.
     
  9. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Calderon was well paid as Jr Flyweights / Flyweights go, the little men never get paid big bucks regardless of what they are achieving or how they are achieving it.

    What Rigondeaux does is not boring, its not be criticised, its an elite level of skill set in a particular sport. The knee jerk reaction from Bob Arum for me paints a more sinister picture to that of any media report (by the way I havent seen many actually criticising Rigo, most the opposite), because its him using his pull to eliminate any black stain on a fighter than can generate "HIM AND HIS COMPANY" more money !!!! absolutely ****in shambolic how this old ******* can keep getting away with this type of slander!

    I apologise for levelling an accusation at you, clearly it was not your intention to compare Rigondeaux to the Klitchsko Brothers on a technical level, but the fact people do compare them in what ever context they like shows a lack of understanding in a sport they claim to be fond of or in most cases a fan of.

    Its like the pissed up fan (British slang for drunken) at a fight shouting boring, waste of money or anything like that because fighters are not trying to force a knock out or stoppage for 3 minutes of every round, with no regard for anything other than forcing a knock out! It sucks
     
  10. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    From now on whenever I hear a boxing writer talk about how casuals will react to a certain fight instead of actual boxing fans I will refuse to read ther articles. It's a spit in the face.

    Boxing fans come first, then casuals. **** casuals! They can stick to watching bull**** like male volleyball or whatever gay ass **** casuals would be in to.
     
  12. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quoted for truth
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    While in an ideal world and to some extent I agree with you, it just isn't the reality.

    Casuals = money = interest = need for a writer to have his job.

    It's just the way it is. I think boxing fans sometimes think boxing isn't a business that revolves completely around the bottom line, like everything else.

    And don't hate on volleyball for the sake of doing it while at the same time saying boxing fans should not be allowed to dislike certain fighters for how they fight. "Just because you can't appreciate the skill, strategy, and teamwork of volleyball... etc etc."