I watched De la Hoya vs Mosley II last night and it seemed clear that Oscar won....

No way Shane won that fight. Giving him a draw is a stretch. Either way, that was a very disappointing fight. Only good rounds to me were the 9th and 12th.

 

Oscar beat a juiced Mosley clearly in that fight!

 

Allow me to disagree and vehemently with you CantRegister. Hoya boxed behind his jab basically because that was the only way he would create the optical illusion that he was "outboxing" him ( whatever that means). He couldn't use his left hook or any other power punch if those scoring combinations didn't come following from the left lead, and still was wincing anytime Shane landed a right on his body.

I admit Oscar fought a good boxing fight and the scores were close or weren't they? The winner had to be who dictated the action and it wasn't Oscar - he and Floyd Sr just found a way to mask up who really controlled the pace and the action - Mosley with heavier and effective powerpunching. I had it exactly 115-113 Mosley and wouldn't give rounds to Oscar wherein he didn't impose himself like a fighter should do... But that's why I see controversy out of proportion in the draw Whitaker-Chavez and in the MD for Tito against Hoya... This is boxing but you gat to prove yourself strong, not just out-manoeuvre, out-witt or "outboxed" em ( whatever that means again)...

 

Seems on the same side you score the Sturm fight against DLH when Sturm was boxing all night behind a jab when he never really threw anything else while Oscar landed body combinations and was the aggressor yet Oscar fighting a similar way as Sturm doesn't get the fight against Mosley. Double standard?

 

I suggest that we leave the famous Harold Lederman principles aside - clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship and defense. And go directly to the definition:

"Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting in position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit." This has nothing to do with finesse, coreographies, aesthetics. Strength and aggression are two sides of the same coin and mean a hell of a lot once you get to hit them with accuracy, precision and frequency. If you pitty-pat with a jab and side-step or turn only, it won't do and I suggest that you rewatch Chavez and Sweet Pea everytime Pernell turned to his right side ( took a right counter, that was what it was) - you must be mistaken with Floyd-Baldo... Baldo couldn't hit the rear of Floyd's ostrich skin trunks with a handful of salt.

I will find statistics to my case and concerning that fight so that this doesn't seem that I am tryin to BS you or anyone else around here but not today please? You're not rude at all and I'm not trying to debate just to prove that I'm right ( I could be wrong) -but I clearly believe Oscar came second best in the rematch again, outfought and outpunched and if you really want to use the term, outboxed too.

 

No double standard. Oscar started with an intense body assault with both hands in the first. Kept it up for a while and started fading as Sturn took it over with an assertive jab and not only scored as he didn't enable Oscar to score. It was not similar, Sturm clearly won the fight and Oscar didn't shut Mosley's offense like Sturm did to him, let's not play games.

 

I had Oscar winning the second fight. Mosley's face said it all after the decision.

 

Oscar beat Mosley, and Mosley was on roids. That fight should be ruled a no contest since Mosley got the gift decision and has since admitted to using steroids for that fight.

 

I was happy but shocked as hell with the decision. I had Oscar ahead by 2 or 3 rnds

 

De La Hoya won the fight.

 

I had 8-4 for Oscar. Shane had only 2 good rounds.
Going to the 12th, Shane's dad told him needed a Knock Out to win.
Shane's expression when the decision was announced shows who won the fight.

 

Definitely a Mosey win. I wish I had my old rd by rd w/ scoring. When I re-scored, I was actually LOOKING to give DLH the close rounds. Just couldn't do it.

 

Oscar made Mosley look foolish at times. I had to stretch to give Mosley 3rds.

 

I had it 7-5 De La Hoya.