I have an issue with flinching and with bad habits created through no contact sparring to light sparring. I came out of traditional martial arts and MMA, though I've only competed in Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Wrestling and Jiu Jutsu; mostly losses, with a few really bad ass wins. combining all xompetitions i'm probably at 6-8 wins and 12-16 losses. For pretty much my whole life I was raised on that philosophy "it's better to avoid a punch than to absorb the power of one" and then I was also trained in that mentality that if I learned all the techniques that I could avoid punches. and for years that's what I thought I was doing. till I stepped in with an amateur boxing. All those times that I thought I had ducked or dodged, I believe that people just weren't following through. So, I started recording myself spar, and I was appalled! I also found that as a result of not training to actually land punches that when I throw them at people, I throw them extremely sloppy, slow and wide. I believe that this is a combination of the "no contact/light" rule and my desire to flinch. I am stationed overseas, isolated duty, and since my boxer friend left, I've not had any good training partners willing to really put that kind of effort into training, but I want to compete when I end up back in the states or an area that has boxing. So for head movement I do a slip bag, I also try to slip the speed bag every once in a while, and then sometimes I put on some head gear and ask someone to punch lightly. I don't know if this is necessarily good training, so if anyone has any good advice for someone who does not have medium to heavy sparring as an option, I would love to hear it. For footwork I follow the lines on the basketball court, jumprope, shadowbox, follow the heavy back, circle the heavy bag, and attempt to match the speed bag. for power I lift light to low heavy at high reps and high frequency, work on proper distance and stance, listen for the pop and try to emulate mike tyson. For hand speed I do speed bag, and bag work. But I don't really try to focus on this because I caught myself trying to be fast and throwing pretty much two punches at the same time, just looking like a fool. also, in terms of "boxing" I am almost completely self and youtube trained. I've uploaded some videos on youtube, and will upload more soon. Any critique would be greatly appreciated. I have no ego in this, please tell me what you see if you are willing. http://www.youtube.com/user/kyokushinnojoe
I haven't had the time to watch all the videos. But I did watch the sparring ones. You don't look too bad at all. At least not nearly as sloppy as you describe. But my only criticism is, that light, non-contact type sparring is an absolute waste of time. Because you react differently to actually getting hit, so training for a situation that will absolutely never present itself, is a waste of your time. I'm not saying go out there and try to kill your sparring partners, but you will get immense value out of moderate contact. When people say "light sparring", they simply mean regular sparring where you're landing shots but not trying to kill your partner. Light sparring does NOT mean, just copying the movements without any actual contact. Grab some head gear, wear a cup and mouthguard and get used to getting hit. That non-contact sparring will do MORE damage in the long run. Because once you're in a situation where you actually get hit, the shock might overwhelm you. If you want to train out the flinching reflex, the only way to do that is to actually get hit. I understand finding sparring partners is a challenge right now, so I can sort of understand what you're going through. Good luck with your training.
You really need a coach.. Here's a couple of quick points to work on.. You throw your punches midair when you are doing that bouncing in and out thing you do, this means that you are off balance. The correct technique is to push off the back foot for going forward and front foot for going backwards. On the jab for example you would push off the back foot raise the front foot slightly resulting in a step, the jab lands as the front foot lands. I know it's cliche to use Floyd Mayweather in examples but I'm gonna do it anyway. Watch this fight and watch how he throws his jab paying particular attention to his feet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYn2xZ5v8oo Also as I mentioned before your punches are arm punches, you need a coach to show you the proper way to throw a punch, it's all about weight transfer watch this video and see how Mike gets all his weight behind his punches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilw6VLjdGIg
It was a definitely a good idea to record yourself on a cam. It is hard to find a good coach unless you are willing to pay for private lessons. But you can self improve definitely by analyzing your own footages from time to time if you know what to correct.
I have to say that you don't know how to properly punch or move. You simply cannot correct this by yourself. If you hope to compete when back in the states, just keep in shape and wait until you find a gym, or find someone with actual boxing experience. You're only going to ingrain bad habits that will be very hard to unlearn. The problems: You don't pivot into your punches, all your weight is on the front foot, you're not treating the bag like an opponent, your combination sequences have little purpose, you don't maintain any sense of proper range with respect to the bag. That bounce 1-2 you do in the other video is useless, there is no pivot off the back foot into your right hand, the rhythm is predictable and not at all explosive. This simply isn't functional for boxing. I'm not saying this to be mean, you seem like a nice guy with some good goals for fitness and learning boxing as a combat sport, and you're honest about your previous errors. As much as you might want to improve on your own through footage, you can't without the fundamentals in place, and you were never taught them. I wish you the best but take my advice seriously, learn to box before you try to box.
I watched the heavy bag videos...and your feet are real messed up. This messes up everything else you are trying to do. I understand the frustration of trying to learn on your own, for one reason or the next, but you are teaching yourself some bad habits. This is my suggestion, the same one I always make...the best instructional book on boxing ever written in by Edwin L Haislet and it is called either Boxing or On Boxing. You can find it on-line, for free I am told (I once paid a 'book-finder' $80 to get me a copy, from Australia!). It has very simple easy to follow instructions and drills and exercises. Get the book and use it for a guide.
Oh wow! I would like to start with, thank you everyone for your replies. This information has been extremely amazing. I've added a few more videos unders "2013 traning" I got injured some time back and when I came back I was considerably heavier, which has changed my style a lot. Please review my vids under the same link if you have time. I'm going to constantly be adding vids. Speechless- That makes sense. I got in with a Mexican boxer in Okinawa, Jp. And this dude aside from throwing punches so fast I couldn't see them, was putting all of them on my forehead. I thought he was being a dick and trying to show off. But since you explain that, that makes sense. what do you think about this idea? I got a piece of head gear, and I'm trying to entice people to just punch at me. Ezzard- I see what you mean on that. Im just kinda tapping them out there. Point noted. Daly- I wish I had the luxury of a coach, but as good as I got is the internet. And so I put that Jab thing into use yesterday. I felt like Mr. Uncoordinated. But is what you're saying kinda like the Kenda strike where you want the sword to connect at the same time as your foot lands? I was never good at that either. It sharpens the jab, gives you better stability for a recoil, and the added distance of the step without the mid air jab that I was doing. I'm glad you pointed that out though. I do it quite often. NVSemin- Thank you. Yes I like the idea of recording myself because not only do I attempt to catch my mistakes, but it gives me the chance to come a place like this forum and as advice. and my vids are up on youtube for the whole world to see if they feel like criticizing. Bogotazo- I really appreciate the honesty and I do not by any means perceive it as mean. I asked for criticism and you gave it. so please allow me to ask questions; The pivot you mention, are you saying that because I am on the front foot? or are you saying that I need to turn more, like get my whole body into it? I like that point on the bag. Hadn't really though of that before. Thank you. Range, I'm still working on it. and you're right, I was never taught, but I got this dream. Fighting has been the only thing that has ever gotten me to the gym. Not women, not (other) sports, but fighting (in it's various forms) is what I live for. If I gave it up and got fat and depressed. I'm no good at it, I know it, but I love it. but seriously thank you for your reply, I love the criticism you gave. That was on point. Grey- I just so happened to have a scribd account cause I do a lot of reading and I found the book in a second. I will look into the book. What specifically is messed up about my feet? and once again, thank you to everyone for your replies. I hope to get more from you soon.
Much good advice given here. Watching your heavy bag work, you don't hit it as if you were fighting. You hit-stop-hit-stop, etc. Act as if that bag is throwing punches at you and you're going in for fast strikes. Keep your eyes FOCUSED. About flinching and blinking, I made devices that punch at me at real speeds. The speeds adjust and stay at exactly what I set them to, this way I can practice in gradual increments to get better and better. Studies show you can get better but you have to have the right tools to do repeated practice so YOU clearly see what works for you. The practice reteaches your brain to stay focused and act fast to avoid pain rather than the flinch/blink response to avoid pain. Even when not fast enough to avoid getting hit, it's amazing how the same training takes something off the punches to make the force much less. Punches that get through all the way with nothing taking the force off, those are dangerous.
I hate to break it to you, but most of your stuff is terrible to watch. You're gonna have to turn up the notch by ten fold to be training properly. You'll get slaughtered if you train/fight like that... Anyways, all the best. Find a good coach
I watched a couple more, and different, videos, and there are, at various points, a few things you do wrong. First, there is that hop step you do when you jab. That doesn't do you any favors, so far as leaving you in a good spot to throw more punches, and it isn't helping the flow of your body weight as you try and chain punches together. Second, and you were doing this horribly in some of the videos and not so much in the last one I just watched....You are throwing everything off your left leg. When you would hop in with the jab you'd get your weight onto your left foot, throw the right hand then left hooks, all with the weight on your left foot. That weight needs to go back to front on the right hand, then back again on the hook, and so on. As you move along in the activity, it is this flow of weight that not only adds power to your punches as you chain them, but it enables you bob and weave and avoid getting hit in return. What you were doing in these videos anchors you in one spot. Last, in the final video I watched, you were squaring up to throw your right hand. It was one of the stationary punches videos, and it was interesting to watch you experiment. So you started bringing your right foot up, like a baseball pitcher, when you threw the right hand- I understand why, because it gives you more pop, it seems, and then it is easier to get your weight moved on the left hook- but it is a bad idea. Watch Botha/Tyson to see why. Get that initial movement, that step with the jab right and you'll see how much easier it is to get turned on the right hand without swinging your foot forward like that. Then, at the most, slide your right foot an inch directly to the right (not forward) to turn on the hook.
Autoboxer- What are these devices you speak of? I saw someone posted a video of a russian dude tying a tennis ball to his ballcap. So far I've only been extneding the cord length on a speed bag hitting it, and trying to wait till the last second to move and or eat it. Pugsley- You don't have to break it to me, I already know. You're right, I would/did get demolished by a boxer. I'm not gonna lie, I lost inspiration after I got hurt about a year and a half ago in a BJJ match in Japan and stopped training. But I'm back on it now. Grey- Thank you for a second reply. I'm trying to disect what you are teling me with this. Ok so first point is, get rid of my hop jab? I developed that when I was lighter, but I still carry its remnents. I've been working the last couple of days to correct that since one of the critiquers pointed it out. I'll keep on it. and then for the left leg thing. I know exactly what you are saying. I can feel myself doing this. I'm not sure if I uploaded the video or not, but there was an occasion where I didn't the my left hook in hard enough and the bag almost knocked me over. I developed this habit as a result of my old training partner (the boxer that whooped me) being a south paw. Someone the other day passing by noted that I only circle to the left. ok, I think you're talking about weight transfer corrent? Please correct me if I'm mistaken. I was reading an article on expertboxing.com that made mention of not transferring the weight to one leg or the other (which is still not what I've been doing) but would you advise such an technique? and for that last bit of advice, are you recommending that I "step-jab" instead of hop jab? and I'll put that hook advice to work. I've always been hesitant to throw my right hook because it never feels like I'm at the right angle until I square up. Thank you again everyone for your replies
I made a variety. One is just one arm you set the speed and it fires off by a foot pedal. The others are like boxing robots that punch automatically; you set the speed, how much area you want the punches to cover (like waist to top of of head) and how much forward aggression you want the "robot" to be coming at you. Anyway, take my word for it because I didn't get on this forum to push my stuff, and besides, I'm not selling it anyway. The feedback others have given you I highly agree on, except one, that getting hit will help your flinch/blink. I used to shoot a lot of pistol competition and for any shooter, flinching is a problem. The problem does not go away by shooting more, it goes mostly away (not completely) by doing certain drills and reteaching the mind. My devices reteach your way of thinking. In action sports, like boxing, milliseconds count, but ask a trainer or boxer the details of how they count, you will not get a good answer. If you go into a fight with thoughts of fear of getting hit, you've already filled your mind with thoughts that will make you flinch more. Just like with shooting if you think of the bang and recoil, you'll flinch more.
Read through the section in the book I recommended on footwork, most importantly on the coordinating of the movements of the hands and feet. That is, in essence, what I am talking about. It is all about getting your distance right, so your punches work. And when you start stepping like that with your jab/right hand, don't cheat the jab. Get it all the way out there or you'll smother your own right hand. I'm pretty sure I have read the article to which you are referring, and, if it is the same one, I'm not sure he was saying not to shift your weight. Because you have to, to maintain balance, to be able to move, to generate force, and so on. Most movement in boxing- slipping, bobbing/weaving, punching- is based on moving your weight from one place to another and following it. It is that type of movement that enables you to punch while making these moves. The advice I gave re: sliding your right foot to the right to throw a hook refers to throwing your left hook. Jab, right hand, slide the foot (just a little little bit) directly to the right and hook. Read those drills at the beginning of the book, the beginning punching movements and then the footwork drills. I think you'll be suprised at how different things feel when you move around and throw punches.
I can relate since fighting is really the only thing that gets me to the gym either. I can't imagine myself being motivated if not to continue perfecting the craft. If you really love fighting you are going to have to make some decisions. If you want to fight to stay in shape, then it doesn't matter much what you do. But it seems like you want to compete. If you want to compete, you have to stop training yourself. It simply can't happen. The more you work the bag and shuffle around the way you are now, the more you are going to ingrain bad habits. Even filming yourself, you simply don't know the best (or even proper) way to throw and move. If you want to compete, save yourself the trouble and stop punching entirely. Your weight being on the front foot is a problem with balance and is also contributing to your lack of pivot on the right hand. You should keep your weight balance with slight preference on the back foot, and turn feet first, then hips, then shoulders, all in one fluid motion. You're punches don't come out straight though and your guard isn't proper either. It's just all a mess. I could keep telling you what's wrong but you simply cannot fix it by yourself. How long before you get back to the states? If I were you and knew what I know, I'd just stop and wait until I went to a gym with a proper coach. You don't know how to box and you can't teach yourself. If you want to be a good fighter, stop hampering your development and be patient.