Lets Face It Virgil Hunter Is Over-Rated

Khan did not look exactly the same against Molina.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=14417017#post14417017

He's not really overly celebrated around here as one of the very best, and any man that can build a fighter like Andre Ward up from scratch has to know something.

 

Khan could get roach, hunter, nazim, mayweather Snr and Garcia all on his training camp and corner, but you can't improve a glass chin

 

Khan did take too many big shots for us to say it's not just Khan's fault, it's Virgil's fault too.

But Khan is not disciplined enough.

 

what do you mean by that?

 

Jesus H christ when are Khan, his team and fans going to stop blaming others and look at number 1. He ditched his first trainer (whose name eludes me) to go with Jorge Rubio for the Prescott fight. He unceremoniously binned Rubio after the Prescott debacle to go with Roach who at the time was riding the hot streak with Pacquiao and widely considered to be with best trainer around. After the losses against Peterson and Garcia he makes Roach the scapegoat and bins him to go with Virgil Hunter in the hope he can make him into Ward. The only common factor in all this is Amir. He and the TS need to stop blaming others for his shortcomings and accept he's reached his ceiling.

 

You were one of the 5 to vote for Zab in the avy bet. Just click on the # of votes


Here is ur avy

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You're such a **** poster.

 

mebbe

Alot of it is a fighter's tendencies and habits, thats really hard to coach out of a fighter. Its not like a fighter is a perfect moldable clay. They have set shapes/edges to a degree, and a trainer can modify and re-define what is there.

Khan had a better approach, but as it was getting heated, he DID start losing his discipline and jumping In and Out a bit. He also started to drop his right hand guard.... and what happened?

A coach can do only so much, a fighter is to blame to a large degree if lacking the mental discipline

 

The vote itself says, "put me down for an avy bet." Wear it with pride buddy.

 

trainers cant get in and fight for them

 

Complain about Khan being the reason for his defeats all you like, I don't think that is the point here.

The point being made by the OP is that he doesn't feel Khans defence has improved and that his offence has got worse.

There are visible changes in the style and it's debatable whether they are for the better at this point.

 

It isn't always the trainer. It's also whether the fighter will listen and is physically/mentally able to execute what the trainer is trying to teach. At this rate, Khan is going to smash the reputation of every elite trainer out there.

 

Punk

 

He's a great trainer. But he's best when he can build a guy up from nothing and teach him to fight and think the way he's supposed to. These guys that he's training aren't the right fit for him. They just don't have the fundamentals or the boxing IQ to benifit from his approach.