The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

mrjotatp4p,

I'm asking for your opinion.

We don't know for sure, but realistically it's only one of two things.


1. He didn't want to give into Floyd's demands.

2. He'd got something to hide, and he needed a break in camp to take something.

If it's 2, then see post 265.

How would he have benefited from taking things in the middle of camp?

It's a straight forward question.

Manny said he didn't want to give blood that close to the fight, but he'd be willing to be tested straight afterwards. They could also have tested his urine at any point.

In the end Manny agreed to everything, and the fight still never happened.

That's not really relevant to what we're discussing.

 

Come on your better than this!!

He never said needles hurt his arms!

**** like that makes you come across an obvious troll.

But yes he also said Floyd was the bigger fighter, and taking blood effects the smaller fighter more.

So Manny had his reasons.

The main reason he's doing it now is because the stance on it has changed. It has become a thing that the whole sport is doing, so manny is getting behind it too.

And probably to help with his image as it did affect it, by not greeing to all the demands 1st time around.

 

That **** was embarrassing. Sounded dumb as rocks.

 

Yeah, reasons with no scientific basis. He just making **** up as he goes

 

I said his team, not Manny said this. Manny had an excuse and Kimmell that made no ****ing sense. Kimmell actually tried his damndest to help Manny out and give him an out, but Pac kept on talking nonsense about Floyd being too big :nut

 

Turbo,

He would never have admitted that in public, that he'd done it to spite him, and to not back down to give him power in negotiations.

He could never have publicly stated that for obvious reasons.

If he'd have stated that reason, there's no way he could ever have negotiated with Floyd in the future.

If he'd have admitted that, Floyd would have took the **** in any future negotiations.

Floyd would make demands, and he would never be willing to even consider backing down, or meeting half way, with an omission like that. He would have taken full advantage.

I think if Manny had've been asked straight out, he would have had to have denied it.

 

First you say he probably didn't want to give into Floyd's demands. Okay but they agreed to the testing when Floyd asked for it. They agreed and then Floyd said he signed his contract and Manny and company pulled away and wanted cut offs. So why agree and the pull out?

Manny said he didn't want to give blood the day of the fight. His words and then he was told he had 14 days without blood test and he said that is too close to the fight. Do I need to put the video up for you to see?

In the end Manny agreed years later and then we had all the other bull**** from all parties involved. A lot happened during that time. Floyd changed his position on the money bc his fights did more etc etc and then we had Arum refusing to even negotiate ext etc. They are all at fault but regarding the issue of testing Manny and his team dropped the freaking ball.

Look at it this way. If Manny was clean and hd went on with the fight and beat the **** out of Floyd that would have humbled the hell out of Floyd bc Manny going into the fight would have passed all urine and blood test taking up to 14 days out and right after the fight. Floyd would have known he was beating by a clean fighter and that Manny was better but no Manny and company had a million excuses. :deal End Thread

 

either way he didn't want to do it.

The main reason was that he felt it weakened him.

I'm 50/50 on the blame anyway.

Why when were in the midst of the biggest superfight of out era, does Floyd even want to change the drug testing, This was the 1st time in the history of the whole sport that this is being requested.

WTF - Manny is a handpicking weight draining midget anyway, Why does Floyd suddenly care. He never cared before? He whups his ass to a 12-0 UD. I don't get why all of a sudden he needs a new form of testing right up to the fight.

 

Kimmel: So Mayweather wanted you to give random blood tests and you said "NO, i'm the champion youre not going to dictate to me, lets do things my way"

Manny: No...... (insert excuse I couldn't understand)

He blew it badly.

 

Because he wasn't going to bow down to Floyd's demands straight away, after Floyd's family had accused him of being a cheat.

If you don't agree, and you think he was trying to hide something, and he needed a window to take PEDS, then I'm open to debate it with you.

 

He didn't say to spite, he said he wasn't going to be dictated to and when Kimmell worded it like that Manny said no that wasn't the case.

I'll have to take Manny at his word on this one because that was pretty much the only excuse that they DIDNT use. Then Manny shot it down when asked.

There is no evidence to suggest otherwise, sorry L. I'm not blaming Manny anyways I blame Arum for the fight not happening.

 

Seriously, the people defending Manny need to stop.

They agreed, right away, to the extra testing.

You guys are seriously ignorant to the TIMELINE OF EVENTS. The testing was AGREED UPON IN PUBLIC by Manny's team, and the request was made VERY EARLY in negotiations. Pacquiao's team added the $10 Million per Pound clause AFTER the testing request. The SAME DAY that Mayweather AGREED to the $10 million per pound penalty, THEY VERY SAME DAY, Team Pacquiao began to have problems with the random testing stipulation.

All of you guys making up different scenarios to cover your hero's ass need to stfu. You guys are ****ing pathetic.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE. One team had a signature ready to go, the other team walked. Period. They walked because Mayweather was going to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, signed that contract quick even with the $10 million per pound (he meant business, didn't even complain about it), and they were shook. Gave Pacquiao ring size and gloves as well as 50/50 and even changed his position to allow a 14 day cutoff. You guys are ****ing morons.

 

A combination of him blatently ducking stronger testing, him never performing to the level he did since being accused and the amount of guys failing since Mayweather opened up the issue points the finger to him having something to hide.

He has no problem with it now because his system is clear, as we can see in his performances since.

 

Not "either way", that's what the lil guy said. Some stupid unscientific reason.

 

Amazing. Pacquiao loves shitting on his fans.