We give the 1990s heavyweight greats so much respect...but

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  1. DarthYoda

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    Bowe beats pre Mccall Lewis quite easily i reckon.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

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    While that may be true it wasn't for lack of trying on his part, for the most part he was avoided.
     
  3. Shake

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    I think experience is becoming more important in todays division. It is slowing down overall, bigger men, bigger punches, less workrate. Mark my words, if a superheavyweight limit is not created, the average age of the heavyweight champion will continue to climb.
     
  4. salty trunks

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    The 90's was good until about 92. It was really latter part of the 80's and early 90's. The division has been on a steady decline ever since with the worst crop ever right now.
     
  5. Rex Tickard

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    I think the Lewis-Tyson fight is the only one that genuinely happened too late, since Tyson was no longer competing at the top level.

    The other fights happened when both fighters were past their peaks, but still considered elite and on fairly comparable footing. I think those fights fair barometers of what would've happened under any circumstances.
     
  6. salty trunks

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    I think a younger Holyfield's style would have matched up better to Lennox Lewis than the one that actually faced him. That version of Holyfield was strong, but he fought in spots and did a lot of holding and grappling. I see a fighter similar to the Lewis Mercer fight, where Holyfield would make Lewis work a lot harder, and possibly beat him.
     
  7. WABCBoxer

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    As i stated in another thread, if Tua would've had Kevin Rooney training him in the 90's, he would've dominated that decade. Tyson was done in the 90's. Bowe was finished after 93. Lewis was always over-rated. Holyfield would've always been a wildcard though.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    It was a very strong era in terms of actual talent, but left much to be desired in other areas... As already pointed out, there were a good number of matches that were either made too late or never at all. In addition, you had a lot of success coming from unlikely places.. Two of the 90's heavyweight champs were men who ascended from lower weight classes, while another was a 40+ year old fighter on the comeback trail... The division also lost one of its best participants for a period of four years. You also had two of the biggest upsets in heavyweight history and a lot of guys like James Douglas, Oliver McCall, Bruce Seldon and Frans Botha holding titles... It should also be noted that when discussing the " second coming of the golden era of heavyweights", that period shouldn't be designated to the entire decade of the 90's as a whole... Really when we're talking about the greatness of that era, we're looking at 1991 to maybe 1995. The rest of that decade was pretty shitty.
     
  9. Leftsmash

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    It is, the OP is a known Klit fan as well as a subtle racist.
     
  10. The Kurgan

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    We did see Holyfield-Bowe 1 & 2, Holyfield-Tyson 1, and Lewis-Holyfield 1 & 2. (Notice a pattern?)

    We missed out on a lot of fights, but unlike the 1980s- which lacked a really competitive fight between boxers who were clearly ATGs- the 1990s delivered some real classics. It wasn't as entertaining as the 1970s, of course, but how many decades of heavyweight history were?

    And it was much better than the dull shitfest we've endured since Lewis-Klitschko in 2003; even that was sloppy, cumbersome and lacked duration in comparison to the classics of the 1990s. Holyfield-Lewis 2 was the last heavyweight title fight where I'd hold up both boxers as an example of how to box, given their respective attributes, because Holyfield that night showed how an average sized heavyweight can be competitive with a superheavyweight and Lewis was the original superheavyweight who knew how to box tall & big.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Agreed.. And Holyfield even made a contribution to the current era when he faced Valuev in 2008 and very nearly won.
     
  12. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to the highlighted words in your post those "times" are still happening?

    Quit trolling
     
  13. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That doesn't make sense. If the level of competition was the same the excitement would be the same. Fights is what makes the atomsphere and excitement. Not seeing Deontay Wilder bum his way to 28-0
     
  14. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dont talk out of your ass.
     
  15. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shows why your opinion is off. The current era are boring. They come into the ring out of shape. They're not going into the ring to hurt each other. Contenders are fighting bum after bum. They can hardly go more then 4rounds and you draw comparison to the 90s?