Are the Mayweather/Alvarez Rumors Coming from Alvarez's camp?

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's what it seems like.
    Is there a motive behind doing so? Yes there is.
    While Alvarez might be next inline for a Mayweather fight. He's only 22 years old and while he's coming off the biggest win of his career, and has 43 fights under his belt. He may not be ready for a fight with Mayweather. He's been calling Mayweather out for some time now. Perhapps after a compitive fight with Trout and seeing Mayweather take apart Guerrero. He or his managament are having second thoughts.
    Spreading a rumor that Mayweather want's to fight at 147 rather than 154 gives Alvarez an out. It would allow him to fight Cotto which would give him a bit more big fight experance, and even rematch Trout. Mayweather will be 37 in May of 14 as well.
     
  2. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rumor has it Haymon approached Mayweather with the catchweight offer, which he must have rejected else we'd be hearing about the fight. Whether he'd previously rejected 154, or they just knew he wasn't up to it, no idea. Chances are Haymon is just as concerned as Showtime is about the available options, and the PPV forecast, since big SHO losses -> lack of dates for Haymon clients.
     
  3. Hands of Iron

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    Hopefully Haymon is all for this fight and not backing Mayweather on the 147 nonsense or else it's completely dead in the water. Again, if it's ****ing true. It would really be nice to know.
     
  4. ChipChair

    ChipChair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cant believe this will fall through and we will be stuck with Mayweather vs Devon Alexander ffs.
     
  5. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Alvarez is smart, he will wait 1-2 more years and develop himself more (rack up victories) as Floyd deteriorates. He then might have a decent chance of beating him.
     
  6. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd's a damn fool if he's asked Canelo to come to 147. He's said some off the wall **** before, but this just doesn't make any sense. Can't see Oscar allowing it though, so we shouldn't have an issue. Oscar knows Floyd won't be around too long and Canelo is the big meal ticket.
     
  7. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    Agree

    Floyd has said plenty of ******ed **** in his day but this would be beyond stupid. That's why I'm simply waiting to hear something official from someone actually involved in the negotiations.

    Whenever Floyd fights there are always speculations all over the place about how Floyd said this or Floyd did that. So it wouldn't surprise me if this turned out ti be more bull****. That is why I'm just taking the wait and see approach.
     
  8. Emeritus

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    Can you please tell me where you read this "rumour"?
     
  9. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it came from Alvarez's camp, along with Sulaimain from the WBC practically begging Canelo to let Mayweather get older before he fights him.
     
  10. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    He can't wait. He's getting too big for the division and Floyd is too small for it. Everyone knows this, and I still desperately want it because I know Floyd will tax his ass, it'll be a major event for boxing, and it'll muzzle these mother****ers around here whether they front or not (All the threads and comments are out there). After that, I don't care if he fights guys who have losing records, I really don't. Just do this one the right way.
     
  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Agreed. Being Ring champ in 2 divisions simultaneously would be pretty awesome too.
     
  12. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Exactly. You can't hate on this **** even before you take it off paper.

    Recognized Champion fighting in his prime weight division against a guy 14 years his senior fighting in his fifth (and worst) weight class with a 20+ lb disadvantage? ***** please. He's getting his credit. Most of his biggest detractors on ESB are already on record.
     
  13. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If as I supect this whole thing is an Alvarez smoke screan. His camp may be making a mistake. I'm not saying that Mayweather is ripe for the taking, but a 4 month turnaround is quick by almost anyone's standers at a championship level. Even quicker by Mayweather standers. Futher more. Alvarez has no guanture that he beats Cotto or win a rematch with Trout.
     
  14. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The time is now for Canelo. Even if he wins one or 2 more fights, he is getting bigger, and will surely be at 160 soon.
     
  15. Slippery Pete

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    There will be no Trout rematch, forget about that, it isn't happening.

    If there's any truth to the rumours that Floyd-Guerrero barely made 1 million buys Showtime has a problem on their hands.

    Floyd is guaranteed $32 million a fight. A million PPV's won't make Showtime the money they need to pay Floyd his guarantee and still make money, they need more than 1.2 or 1.3

    May 5th card had a few things going for it. Floyd coming off a year layoff and a stint in jail. This type of stuff almost always results in increased interest and buys. He was also fighting a guy with a Mexican background on a mexican holiday weekend. Should have resulted in increased interest and buys...it didn't.

    If Floyd is fighting in September and rejects Canelo do you really think a Khan, Garcia, Matthysse, Peterson or Alexander fight is going to do any better than Guerrero did? It won't, it'll do worse. You won't have the intrigue of if this guy who did time in jail with a year long layoff, does he still have the goods? You don't have a mexican opponent on a mexican holiday (September 14th is a mexican holiday but none of the proposed opponents are mexican). You are looking at a Floyd fight only 4 months removed from the last one, it's been ages since he fought with that much frequency.

    Showtime is trying to get the Canelo fight done for September. Don't think they aren't pushing for it. Canelo is growing, he will probably outgrow 154 soon.

    If you see Canelo fight Cotto in September and Floyd parked until the end if the year it was Showtime behind the move. I just can't see them putting on another Floyd fight so soon without a marquee name for him to fight. They will give him another chance in December to get some good numbers for them with the winner of Garcia/Matthysse/Peterson sweepstakes or maybe even Khan. If it's more of the same (a million buys or less) they are going to have big problems and not just Showtime but GBP as well. It blows a huge hole in Showtimes boxing budget, a budget GBP needs to showcase their fighters. And with HBO a no fly zone it puts GBP with far fewer dates to showcase their fighters.

    Networks aren't in the business of losing money when they make such big investments like they did in Floyd. He needs to fight someone the fans want to see otherwise he won't be fighting 5 more times in the next 2.5 years