Boxing Expert Dan Rafael: "I'd favor both Klitshckos over Ali"

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  1. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If jimmy young could outbox Foreman , so would Wlad? If rahman , MCcal can KO lewis , why cant Wlad? I'd favor prime Ali over Wlad, but you don't talk about Sanders or Brewster , because most of the ATG's have that kind of losses.
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah...Brewster's a step up from that class. Frazier's just a step up (at least) from Brewster in terms of talent, though,
     
  3. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    rafael and his proclamation to being a "boxing expert" are a joke
     
  4. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this logic is flawed
     
  5. TheNeonSalmon

    TheNeonSalmon Active Member Full Member

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    The Same Lewis who lost to old fat Mercer? The same Lewis who won a close decision over fat old Tucker? Lewis wouldnt beat Ali. Ali by wide wide UD or late TKO.
     
  6. TheNeonSalmon

    TheNeonSalmon Active Member Full Member

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    Prime Ali beats both Klits.

    UD over Vitali in good fight

    TKO over Wlad mid rounds.
     
  7. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl Could not land on Haye who is in flat footed when you comapre him to Ali, he had great great footwork and when he was in prime he could move for 15 rounds with no problem, even shots Wlad would land would not be his hardest because Ali would not let him set, stamina could be the factor in this fight because i dont see Wlad beating Ali with low output and we know Wlad doesnt have the best stamina. Ali had very good jab as Wlad have, but Alis was faster and he could throw it even when he is totally unset, even when he is in the air while he danced, was it strong no but scoring yes and disruptive, while Wlad huge guy he is always needs to set and he does that against his opponents because his good footwork but Ali would not be there just much faster feet he would step aside, and after few rounds(in my opinion even from the start) Wlad would concentrate on fast not hard punches.
    When you talk about Ali fighting someone dont pick fights where he didnt look great, you should know when he faced the best he was more than ready and focused as his record showed, when he had opponent that motivates him he was ready to die in the ring nothing could get in his way, so dont pick and chose less meaningful fights where he didt look as good as he really was, its like saying Brewster and Sanders stopped Wlad so he doesnt have the chance that logic does not work.:nono
     
  8. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Alis power is underrated, Ali definitely wasnt a puncher but he had at least decent power, fact is he didnt sit on his punches but when he did he had decet power that for sure he stopped Foreman who had great chin something guys couldnt do even when he came back as old man, only one to stop Bonavena so he did have decent power.
     
  9. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe Dan is referring to the current version of Wlad beating Ali.. not the 2003 Wlad who was KO'd by Sanders.. I happen to agree with him.
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    So beating Haye, Mormeck, Thompson, Wach , Pianeta is the blueprint to beat Ali? Clown.