Max Schmeling vs Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    They got Wlad beating Louis next door; what about Max in here?

    Max is an interesting prospect for Wlad because Wlad sets the specific problem of "how will you hit me?" Max has a reputation, perhaps warranted, as a specialist in doing just that...so is that enough to overcome the deficit in reach and height of five inches? Who you got and why?
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    hmmmm... i'm gonna give this a bit of thought and come back. i may have to watch some schmeling footage to see how versatile his right hand was
     
  3. heavy_hands

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    wladimir by ko in 35 seconds and being nice with the german
     
  4. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    I'd love to see Wlad fight Ward. It'd clear up a lot of misconceptions about him I think.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Did you see that Ward has claimed he would beat Wladimir?
     
  6. McGrain

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    “You got to fight the right heavyweight,” he admitted, but added: “As a fighter, I believe I could beat a Klitschko… I’m wired to believe that…I think it could happen, absolutely.”
     
  7. McGrain

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    Yeah, he's lying to himself I think.

    Or maybe he thinks a Klitschko is the right heavyweight.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love Max......but I can´t see why Wlad wouldn´t ko him with his long right hand.
     
  9. Jorodz

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    someone said the other day about louis that part of his knockdowns were attributed to the fact that, due to his style, he had to fight in the pocket

    to a degree, I buy this. louis shuffled his way in behind the jab and set up the right hand (and combos). he was in relatively close distance to his opponents and was almost eager imo for a shootout. schmeling had to have a near perfect plan to take away the jab, stay in the pocket and counter louis.

    this was due to louis' ridiculous timing, compactness and power. his hand speed was also tremendous which meant being in the pocket was a pure zone of danger (call kenny loggins...). however, that also meant louis would in turn be vulnerable to well timed counters

    none of this applies to wlad. he would not be in the pocket. his jab would be from a ridiculous distance. and he avoids the living **** out of a shootout. schmeling simply does not have an opponent who he can work with to land the right. wlad has (imo) better movement, a longer range and harder jab, a more predictable but MUCH harder right hand. schmeling was smart, patient, and had a sneaky devastating right hand.

    the stylistic advantages and physical advantages are all to wlad imo. by the 6th, he knows he can land the jab almost at will and starts throwing his right. schmeling dodges most but not all and is ground down for a TKO 10
     
  10. greynotsoold

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    Schmeling beat Louis by staying low, weight back, and his head outside Louis's left foot. This made Joe reach with his jab, exacerbating his tendency to bring that punch low, while keeping him out or range of the Louis right. Schmeling then fought a brilliant, disciplined tactical fight, making the hand speed and combinations of Louis a non-factor,while keeping it a battle between Schmeling's right and the Louis jab.
    I think he would try a similar approach against K, try to make him commit to reaching with the jab, rather than trying to get inside it. If the fight was pre-Emmanuel Stewart, then at some point Schmeling would land a big right hand, maybe a few, and probably get K's attention. But he wouldn't win the fight because, unlike Louis, K has such height and reach advantages that he can punch over Schmeling's deceptions. Since working with Stewart, K would just keep Schmeling at the end of the jab and right hand and stop him with no trouble.
     
  11. superman1692

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    he took 4 rounds to KO Mormec for ****'s sake :lol:
     
  12. Absolutely!

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    Considering how much he respects Schmeling he might even let him last the distance. Not sure if he'd ever take the fight though, were it even to be sanctioned today.
     
  13. heavy_hands

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    schmeling was a 190 pounder, oh yeah, this fight is not even close,
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    You can't counter-punch Wlad. It's that simple really. It's an awful style matchup.
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Ironman vs Wladimir Klitschko

    Ironman uses his boosters to get inside on Wlad but his quickly clinched like a vice negating all of Ironman's attack. He's helpless.

    Wladimir Klitschko KO1 Ironman