who does monster puncher Lucas Matthysse remind you of ?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Chavez, the way he applies pressure with feints to force errors and openings, has a great inside game but basically mastered all punches at all ranges. Slips punches and counters.

    Looked like he broke Peterson's ribs with a right hook last night too.

    The other way around mate, he does so many things better, much better in fighter for one. Tyszu was stronger though with his weight lifting origins though
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have read this, also.

    Why does it seem that fighters always refer to some guy they beat as the hardest puncher they faced rather than the guy who KO'd them?
     
  3. Absolutely!

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    He reminds me of a more composed version of Valero. Similar thudding power, but a bit more tightness and crispness to his shots. Nice all round skillset too. Slips and parries well, gets himself into good positions, consistently and intelligently applies pressure.
     
  4. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I thought that Matthysse did some things real wrong last night and got away with them. Most glaring was his willingness to throw the right hand- just wing it- from too far away. He must have, in the first 4 or 5 minutes of the fight, done that 20 times. A good fighter makes you pay for that, and Matthyse left himself wide open to get hammered. Petersen would get too far out of range, too far to counter those wild misses.
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    People are going overboard with the Matty hype. Love him, beats everyone at 140 and does well at 147 but I'm seeing the hardest ever puncher at 140 comments.


    He couldn't stop Judah. Matthysse may be the hardest 140 lb puncher since Maidana or Ortiz. were dealing with guys like Chavez, Pacquiao, Tszyu, Oscar, Williams through out this division
     
  6. Seamus

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    I've been hit hard and I've been buzzed. The guy who came closest to stopping me was also easily the hardest hitter I ever faced and ****ed up my jaw good. Granted, I only had piddling little experience.

    There are two things that come to mind. A) The guy who KO'd your ass, you didn't feel or remember those punches because you were largely divorced from your senses. B) You don't want to admit that the guy who KO'd deserved it.

    The late, great Magna had the observation that discussions of power are just dick measuring contests. There is a whole world of skill and talent behind consistently applying power to make your opponent feel it.
     
  7. bladerunner

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    A less polished Jose Luis Lopez.
     
  8. Absolutely!

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    He died?
     
  9. Seamus

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    Just in the sense of this board. I havent seen him as of late but Ive been more and more sporadic too.
     
  10. The Prince

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    I think it was a case of willingly letting the hands go regardless of what would come back his way due to the fact that he had much more power and a decent chin. An elite fighter like PBF could certainly make him pay but we're talking about p4p elite here
     
  11. greynotsoold

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    Not really...when a guy comes up that short that often with the right hand, any solid pro has to start making him pay. Hell, maybe he gets away with it once, but he has to be made to pay for the second one, much less 3-21. That is boxing basics. But I think Petersen was maybe more than a little nervous.
    Honestly, I thought Matthysse looked better when I saw him against Soto. Last night he was showing me signs of a guy that has fallen in love with the idea of his power. Things like those right hands from a mile away, and those left swings. Ultimately, that 'love' makes a guy less good than he would be otherwise. Ask Engels Pedroza, the guy that Matthysse reminded me of last night.
     
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  13. Lester1583

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    Pretty good comparison, actually.

    Matthysse is much more willing to let his hands go though.
     
  14. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The guy who Lucas reminds me of is a guy few on this board heard of.His name was Billy Arnold who in the early 1940s,was nicknamed the "new Joe Louis" ,a welterweight monster puncher who obliterated everyone by ko in about 40 or so bouts. Arnold hurt everyone he fought until he met up with a tough street fighter by the name of Rocco Barbella, nee, Rocky Graziano, who came from behind and flattened Billy Arnold, who was shot after this bout which I saw at MSG in 1945. Matthyssey could hit you partially on the temple or face and render you dizzy, such is his power...He also can take a good punch and is not worried about throwing a missed haymaker,as his opponent is too busy
    avoiding LaLa land from the truly heavy handed Lucas...
    P.S. A DREAM fantasy fight for me would be Matthyssey against the ferocious left hook
    puncher of yesterday Tony De Marco of Basillio fame...TIMBER...
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    True, Lopez threw punches as if each of them cost him money.