scientific training methods often dont work...sports science vs practical experience

Ah yeah definitely, there's a lot goes in to reading a study as you obviously know very well. There's very little you can take even from the conclusion section of a full-text. It takes a long-ass time to even get a basic understanding of how to analyse a study. ****, some people do it for years and still cite shitty, irrelevent data.

 

Science always works, the problem is that in most cases what you refer to is not science at all, rather mythology or tradition

 

not saying that experience is enough, trial and error isnt always bad but having scientific evidence to back up claims is definently something id look for. Well thats at least how my prof taught me.

 

What you should take away from that is that there are no absolutes and many different things can work, and you can use a combination of things or make changes along the way, for very good very long term progress. Many tools in the toolbox.

 

in life most people like to think some one is listening to there door sale's rep bull ship ,,

a failed boxer mostly makes a good coach because over time they have looked at all there angles of there history good & bad & tryed to work out where they went wrong this then brings lots of idea's to the gym

if you was at war and you had to pick a Sargent to follow to keep you alive for that day ,which would you pick

1; been in the army most of is life & worked is way up the ranks to Sargent

2; been to university & got the degree then go's to war as a Sargent

i am interested about how the body works under strain & recovery the scientific door sales man will be found out eventually

I'm looking at this from a coaching point of view a boxing coach as had to have been a boxer for the boxer to learn whats needed to gain trust

 

Great coaches I have known, had one good trait, they were all good listeners. All the great Academics Ive known Had this Trait too. Both go together in Coaching, Academia is important, understanding the Skill set is too.

 

Of interest to some , http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/asportingnation/article/0037/index.shtml

 

My two cents: whatever environment you plan to be competing in, that's the best type of environment to be training in.

For the Atlanta Olympics, the U.S. and Japanese swim teams split up their teams. Some trained at altitude in Colorado. Some trained in Viet Nam, which has similar humidity and atmosphere to Atlanta. Some trained at a university (which happens to be near me, which is how I found this out) that is about 3 hours away from Atlanta on the same parallel and thus has nearly exact conditions.

The results:

The ones who trained at the university with the closest conditions performed best in Atlanta, relative to their previous best times.

The ones who trained in Viet Nam did second best.

The ones who trained at altitude did worst.

Altitude training did nothing to prepare them for high temps and humidity (the Atlanta pool was covered, but outdoors). Similarly, if one is competing at altitude then humidity training does nothing to prepare the athlete.

In short, science doesn't happen in a vacuum, but it is often studied in a vacuum and conclusions reached are made from study in a vacuum.

Just food for thought.

 

Some things are just common sense, but it's good to know that scientific people have done studies to back it up:

Jet lag: it's a real thing. Best remedy if you are travelling far across multiple time zones (especially overseas) is to get there as far ahead of the event as possible. For one thing, your body clock will eventually reset to match your new environment and for another you'll get used to the food, the polution (if any), temperatures, etc.

That's not always possible -- if you're a U.S. fighter and you are going to England to fight a hometown hero in a pro fight, they aren't probably going to be inclined to bring you over two or three weeks early, more like a couple of days. But you can negotiate to make it 4 or 5 days and help yourself out.

But more important, TRAIN at the time you expect to fight. If the fight in England is going off at noon U.S. time, train so that you hit the peak of your workout at noon -- in short, get your body ready to perform at an earlier time. If you're going to Las Vegas and the fight will be at midnight Eastern Time and you're in the Eastern time zone, train later at night.

Again, the closer your training and cardio is to competition conditions (if it's a small arena with no air conditioning in the summer, close the doors to the gym and turn up the heat, etc.), the better your body (and mind) should be able to perform.

 

Highguard, we have to listen. To take it as Gospel is another thing, fact is nothing as a whole is written in Stone. Having said that, the Chinese had a great understanding of Anatomy, when we were living in Mud Huts