Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Aug 18, 2009.


Who wins?

  1. Wlad PTS

    17 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. Wlad KO

    64 vote(s)
    59.8%
  3. Rocky KO

    23 vote(s)
    21.5%
  4. Rocky PTS

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Are you talking about Moli?

    What a ****ing idiotic question. This is your great trump card? Really? Jesus ****ing Christ.

    Let me ask why George Foreman let 190 pound Peralta go 10 but stopped 250 pound Mel Turnbow in 1.

    Let me ask why Lewis let amateur, sickly Mavrovic go 12 but stopped giant, experience Golota in 1?

    Let me ask why Joe Louis crushes Simon in 6 but lets Conn almost take the crown from him.

    How about Byrd was a fantastic fighter, a world champion fighter and Moli was a nothing? How about Byrd lost almost every round of the first fight, was KD'd twice, and got ****ing housed in the second fight, beaten to a pulp and stopped?

    Come up with better material.
     
  2. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why are you asking me these questions, I never once said SIZE MATTERS unlike you.

    Can't answer it? :lol::lol:
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The heavyweight division is the only division in which historically you can compare two fighters who are 60 pounds, 8 inches in height and 14 inches in reach apart. Yes, in this case size matters a whole hell of a lot. But more so is that Wlad is highly skilled and employs his style to the utmost efficiency, as well as Marciano did his own style, and against bigger, more prime opponents. Those things being equal, Wlad's incredible athletic advantages and the almost impregnable style he has developed make this a really easy fight to call.

    Your only recourse to defend your argument is to argue the abolition of weight divisions. Otherwise, how could you argue that 60 pounds between two equally dominant heavyweight does not matter?

    You have painted yourself into a corner and I am not in least surprised.
     
  4. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only in the HW division there are certain fighters where the weight,size of their opponents do not matter. A example is the one I have made and the one you cannot refute.

    Corner? You can't even explain your own logic behind size other then "He's bigger it matters."
     
  5. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are right the only idiot is I and it's because im replying.

    I'm assuming this "analysis" put a different weighting on each factors but would most likely rank EVERY 200lb FIGHTER THE SAME IN TERMS OF SKILL,HEART,PAIN THRESHOLD? Yes of course it would. Therefore the test is biased. Moron.

    BTW link me to this test.I am very curious because it was take complex mathematical formulas,years of trial and error,tons of back fitting and then simulating current boxing matches to near perfection... Link me
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Get out of here with Byrd was a fantastic fighter.. Because you cant gloat about any other name on Wlads record, dont prop him up on some fake pedistal..........He'd be nothing if he hadn't won the Vitali fight by accident....The guy had a stance like he was crawling on the floor or about to go climb some rocks...He tried to catch punches like a baseball catcher........He thought he could do the rope a dope when he couldn't.......He couldn't punch through surface water.....He doesn't have one good win at the weight....He was one of the very worst heavies the 2000's. Touch of Sleep was better than him.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    shut ur ****in hole ****.. u hear me yeah? i wont wear it
    ..im loyay here. fury is make or break 4 me .. he holmes or he big mac..
     
  8. WABCBoxer

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    Despite the physical differences, Marciano wins at least 50% of the time. Marciano has a greatness that transcends time and style, Wlad doesn't. Balls and heart go a long way. No one "owns" Marciano, not even a prime Tyson.
     
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    qUIT your job and put bets against Marciano. Go ahead. What are you waiting for.
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    This content is protected
     
  11. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you wanna take a bias analysis which can be refuted into a argument...Are you some sort of genius?

    Evander Holyfield was outweighed in every HW match and won more then the suggested percentage said he would.

    Chris Byrd was the same.
    David Haye is the same.


    Rocky Marciano was the same.
     
  12. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The stats are bias. They don't count competiton they merely count for "KO Ratio" Wow.. Boxing is all about KOing everyone??

    ROFL his sample size is fine you idiot what test is running to get his "sample size". Look at Pianeta nothing pointed towards KO but hey he was KO'd in 6 oh uhh better run another r2 test

    LOL you fail to see the competition difference.

    Again what does KO ratio have to do with anything? You're effectively saying every HW fighter can punch.. You can't even see how dumb you're coming across with these statistics.

    Purrity is a bum and he KO'd Wladimir.

    He would KO Wlad. Wlad has been KO'd by a bum in Purrity. Marciano has never been KO'd at all.

    Yea but Rocky has beaten every HW bigger then him,never been knocked out,highest contender ko ratio..statically he's better then Wlad and Vitali


    Deontay Wilder hasn't got one name on his KOing resume is he greatest puncher of all time?????? Must be.
     
  13. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano Statistics

    KO heavier opponents : 100%
    KO champion and heavier opponents : 100%
    KO previous and current world champions : 100%
    Chance of being beaten in 12 round : 0%
    Chance of being beaten at Championship level : 0%
    KO percent of fighters who have KO'd heavier opponents: 100%
    Chances of beating Europeans: 100%
    Punch resistance holding up against heavier opponents: 100%
    Being behind on the cards against heavier opponents and winning: 100%
    KO against 250lb+ opponents: 100%


    GOAT
     
  14. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At what number of fights did HWBlog determine doesn't alter the outcome of the percentages,so you can justify why we cant use David Haye stats? I am curious!!
     
  15. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Get your mate to run his variables through mlr to see if there is any predictability at all and get back to me bra