Interesting Article about Froch/Kessler and the state of American Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Derrick_Rose, May 26, 2013.


  1. Derrick_Rose

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    In a sport with no real structure and four highly dubious sanctioning bodies, it's understandable how boxing logic can often appear to be a jumbled mess. Such is the case in the super middleweight division, where the World Boxing Classic Super Six Tournament of 2009-2011 saw Olympic gold medalist, Andre Ward, come from relative professional obscurity to a consensus placement as the top 168 lb. fighter in the world.

    Ward, en route to a tournament victory, scored decisive wins over Mikkel Kessler, Allan Green, Arthur Abraham, and Carl Froch.

    However, since his December, 2011 defeat of Froch in the tournament finals, Ward has only fought once-- an impressive TKO 10 defense of his WBC super middleweight title over visiting light heavyweight titlist, Chad Dawson.

    Injuries to Ward and to his proposed opponents have ruined a couple of planned outings, but the business of boxing and the current confused state of affairs have also conspired to put the deep freeze on his career plans.

    The Oakland native, although acknowledged by everyone as the best super middleweight in the world and a top 3 figure in the mythical pound-for-pound rankings, is not a bankable star. And if cinching the Super Six title and stopping Dawson hasn't gotten him there yet, it's a fairly sure bet that there's pretty much nothing he can do to get to that next level of stardom.

    This same issue has affected many American prizefighters recently as a sluggish, shrinking American boxing scene loses ground to a booming European scene. Other than Floyd Mayweather, there are no American boxing superstars anymore and, increasingly, power brokers are losing their leverage to attract some of the biggest and best fights to the United States.


    Very soon, many American fighters, even those among the best of the best, will feel the pressure to pack a suitcase and head out to where big, mainstream-level shows are the norm, not a once-a year anomaly. At some point, all of the top, viable contenders may be entrenched in their own European bases and if their American counterparts want to get meaningful fights, they will have to hop on a plane-regardless of who's "better" or more accomplished.

    Andre Ward may be the first fighter forced into this position.

    On Saturday at the O2 Arena in London, UK, IBF 168 lb. champ Carl Froch won his rematch with Mikkel Kessler via unanimous decision and added the WBA belt to his collection. Froch is now 3-0 since losing to Ward, with wins over Lucian Bute, Yusaf Mack, and Kessler making the case that if Ward is no. 1, Froch is the most solid no. 2 fighter in the sport.

    And after fighting in front of close to 20,000 screaming, supportive fans, he may have also learned that business trumps any sort of sporting narrative. In other words, it's not the best that gets to call the shots; it's the one who can generate the most money.

    "I said before this fight that the winner should really be concentrating on moving on and my only other loss was against pound-for-pound number two in the world Andre Ward," Froch said Saturday, after the Kessler win. "What a fantastic fighter he is and a great, great champion, but he is there to be beaten…But not over in America - let's get him over here. I went over to America and now let's get him over to England."

    Ward, with no real plans on the horizon, may have to swallow the pride that comes along with having earned his top slot at 168 and take a trip across the pond. Froch has forcibly eliminated Kessler and Bute from the list of possible foes for Ward and may be the only commercially viable opponent for the American. It's doubtful, though, that the Nottingham native will be back in the States anytime soon.

    This means that the winner will have to concede to the loser's demands if there's ever to be a rematch. It's a strange state of affairs, but that's the fight game these days.



    Source - Yahoo sports
     
  2. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal:deal

    That's what I've been saying all along.
     
  3. TMTPrince

    TMTPrince Active Member Full Member

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    biggest fights are in America
     
  4. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess you did not watch the fight. The only fighter in North America that can generate that type of energy and crowd is Canelo.
     
  5. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

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    There are multiple divisions where that simply isn't the case, the supper middle weight division being one of them.

    I think Ward would beat Froch in the UK, but the best deserves to get paid, and the 2nd best deserves to get paid as well and deserves the chance to become the best.
     
  6. Derrick_Rose

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    Bradley Provodnikov sold 3 k in Bradleys Backyard.

    Mathysse Peterson sold 4 k.

    Boring-ass shot to **** Adnan Sturm sells 18k fighting Ronald Hearns.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    This. Make the money right. If Super middleweight boxing his bigger in Europe lets see the money
     
  8. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well done for posting mate.
    And nice to see Froch giving Ward due respect.That won't go down well with certain agenda-pushing posters.
     
  9. FloydPatterson

    FloydPatterson Boxing Addict banned

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    Brits jerking themselves off the to the SECOND best in the division
     
  10. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why y'all so mad and insecure.
    Froch fans know he's #2,yet it's everyone else who's crying and bitching.
     
  11. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They might know it but they sure as hell don't act like it. Counting him being the bigger draw as a win. Since when did your drawing power make you better? Ward will kick froch's ass any and everywhere. That fight will NEVER be a contest because the skill level is so far apart.
     
  12. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward ducked Bute even for a fight in his town.Will Ward go in England, risking when he has 4 children?
     
  13. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So I'll ask again;
    Why y'all crying so hard?
     
  14. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ward needs to stop being a crybaby and pack his bags; he's going to Europe. Froch has all the cards: unified champ, money, and all the popularity; he's the shot-caller in this rematch. Ward's going to have to swallow his pride. I'm laughing my ass off at people still thinking America is where the biggest paydays are. Derrick_Rose made the best point.