ughhhhh oh well. you wrong... the monk is clearly 6´5 and foreman close to 6´4 This content is protected
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ali never transformed anything, he was a natural hw when he was adult, at 18 he was not 100% developed, tyson weighed 195 pouns at 18 in the anmateurs but he weighed 217 in his prime, ali was clearly a natural full sized hw, his frame of legs, head.. he wasa big man... period, and he was 6´3(1,90), and foreman was even bigger and taller than him. holyfield was naturally a smaller man than ali, evander trained weights like mad, but his legs had skinny frame, he was not a natural hw, he was a natural cruiser
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Michael Spinks bulked up quicker from lightheavy to heavy than Holyfield did from lhw to heavy. So I don't think it's the roids that made Holyfield heavier. Though weight gaining isn't the only "advantage" PEDs give. Also how likely is it that Holyfield used steroid creams and other kind of shady **** in the first Qawi fight? He lost 15 pounds during the fight and had to go to hospital as he was in shock, that's some shady **** especially considering he didn't really slow down. (He got all his energy back after the fifth/sixth round or so) http://www.********************/pro...the-last-great-fight-to-go-the-full-15-rounds Both fighters were perhaps hampered by the fact that it was July and the heat was incredible inside the arena, after the decision and Holyfield was lofted high in the ring you could see the he was totally drained. In fact a stark reminder in what these guys go through was when Holyfield recounts what happened after the fight. He had no recollection on how he got back to his hotel room that night, but while in the shower he was overcome by severe cramps in his legs, back, arms and neck. As he shouted on his wife to get help, Holyfield collapsed and knew straight away that he was badly dehydrated, but he had no idea to what degree of dehydration until he went to the hospital and was informed what had happened to his body during the fight. Firstly, Holyfield was asked how much he weighed going into the fight. The doctor knew but wanted to make sure, “186 lbs” was the reply. The doctor then replied, “well the problem is you now weigh 171 lbs!” Holyfield lost a over 15 pounds in weight during the fight. He then informed him of the pain he was in and that he had urinated a bit of blood. The doctor had found that some what weird as he never saw Holyfield take a lot of kidney punches. The doctor would then inform the new champion that he hadn't urinated blood, Holyfield had used up every single ounce of his reserves during the fight that towards the end of the fight he began burning up muscle and it was the residue of his muscle that he was seeing in his urination. His kidneys weren’t working right from being so dried out but the good news was there would be no long term effects. After being stabilized and getting an IV drip Holyfield would leave hospital a day later weighing 196 lbs.
agree with you in everything except the point of tyson, he was not 5´9 at 18, he had the same height with 18 and 20. 5´10 or 5´11. about ali.. well, yes he was a skinny lhw at 18,becausevhe was a boy still at this time , because he developed his body later than tyson, tyson and foreman were aplha male at very young age
We're in agreement about that. Super intimidating guy. Has the body and the attitude to be a dominant athlete, for sure. I would imagine George has some knee problems. He's gotta be darn near 300 pounds, and aging. That's not good on the joints.
i think that spinks was a natural full sized cruiser, he was drained like hell at 175, he was too big for a lhw, i don´t think that evander was naturally bigger than him
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yes, and this version of mike weighed around 230 pounds, a prime tyson would have looked a midget next to him
Not buying it. Michael had first rate training from Mackie Shilstone, and came it at 170 for his penultimate LHW defense against David Sears. He never would have had difficulty making 175 with the support he had from Shilstone. Can't see Evander coming in under 175 even with Shilstone's training. I do think he was naturally bigger than Michael, although not by that much. www.sportsillustrated.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1119972/1/index.htm
spinks was drained at lhw, he was all frame at this weight, maybe holyfield was naturally a little bigger, but not by much
When Michael weighed in for his rematch with Holmes, observers in the press noted that the five pounds of weight he gained was mostly evident in his thighs, consistent with Shilstone's plyometrics conditioning. Michael's simply a skinny guy, sunken chested, and that certainly hasn't changed in retirement. He's never been much more than framework, a pugilistic ERECTOR Set. Holyfield never weighed less than 177 in his early professional career. Michael topped out at 212-1/4 for Tyson after a year's inactivity, and well after his break from Shilstone [who would go on to help prepare RJJ for Ruiz]. I won't discuss how big Evander's gotten, or how, just want to point out that he was not ever a professional LHW, and likey always had too much muscle mass to safely attempt to try making 175 against world class opponents. Holyfield was naturally a little bigger, but bigger enough to make all the difference. Evander never could have become the ATG LHW Michael established himself as.
