Why did Vits not fight these top 10 fighters?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Now is now ponchy.
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry but I don't know what a "ponchy" is. In due time though Dino. Right now I'm laying down trying unsuccessfully to get some sleep before work. If I get up and get on my computer it will be impossible. Don't worry though my friend I won't let you down. I have plenty of knowledge and links to back up my case.
     
  3. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No champion ever faced ever top 10 opponent....
    Not even the ones whose balls you likes to lick.
     
  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, that a disgustingly gay imagination you have. But I bet you can't vinegar single post on this forum of me blindly nuthugging ANY fighter. And it doesn't change that Vittles didn't fight 28 top 10 fighters the entire time he wad ranked. No, no fighter gets them all. But lets be serious, if Vits was a real warrior he would have gotten to a lot more than he did.
     
  5. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    If some of those top fighters (especially those from recent years) actually fought each other in order to claim their shot at the champion then Vitali maybe could have taken on the best of them as they presented themselves.

    As WBC champion he should be taking on 1 in 4 not all and every one of them.
     
  6. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    :deal
     
  7. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jab , it's called obsession.
     
  8. WelshDevilRob

    WelshDevilRob Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad was offered the fight after he beat Monte Barrett, on a Lennox undercard but chose to go the WBO route instead - ducking Lewis in the process.

    Wlad then blew his chance, in 2003, by getting sparked by, Hasim Rahman victim, Corrie Sanders.

    If you need the Bowe situation explaining to you - then you haven't been following the sport very long.
     
  9. WelshDevilRob

    WelshDevilRob Active Member Full Member

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    If you think Lewis is going to take a fight when he is getting half of the other fighter then your deluded.

    I have read Maloney's book and Rock Newman never made offers that weren't heavily in favour of his own fighter - so in real terms pricing themselves out of a bout. Happens all the time in the sport.

    If Bowe hadn't ditched the belt after the agreement, that the Holyfield vs Bowe 1 and Lewis vs Ruddock winners met next then we would have had the fight. Bowe and Newman chose to make easy money against faded Dokes and ferguson rather than give boxing the fight it wanted.

    Later, if Bowe had gotten past Golota then the fight might have happened - no guarantees, as Rock Newman was an arse.
     
  10. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Oh Jab, you're mindlessness is amusing. Here are some lists for you: LL:
    Maskaev Byrd Johnson, WK, McCline, Oquendo, Ruiz, Jefferson, Moorer, Witherspoon, Foreman, Izon, Bowe, Seldon, Zolkon, Hide, Holmes, Gonzalez, Hunter, Bentt, Garcia, Douglas, Williams, Damiani, Dokes, Norris. Those are all the Ring top 10's Lewis never faced when he was active (there might be more, I got bored and stopped when I got about as many as you had for VK) Heres one for you from Ali:
    Ingemar Johansson Eddie Machen Mike DeJohn
    Robert Cleroux Alex Miteff Dick Richardson Joe Erskine Logan, Levorante, Daniels, Rischer, Lincoln, Hilton, Persol, and I'm less than halfway through the Ring rankings for Ali's career and more than halfway to the numbers you had for VK.

    Vile little hater, you can't fight all the top 10's, especially from Ring, who often has questionable top 10 rankings. Please note that of the top 10 fighters that LL "avoided" (fault lies as often with the would be challengers, as with the champs) VK beat 3 of them himself. Vitali has beat at least 10 genuine top 10 guys and at least 19 top 20 guys, only a handful of HW's in history can claim as many conquests, at least without having lost vastly more than VK's 2. Your irrational hatred is quite easy to expose as just that, completely irrational, to anyone willing to dig a little.
     
  11. LoRd_inFamousX1

    LoRd_inFamousX1 Lord of the Square Rings Full Member

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    Yea we do :yep
     
  12. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    Its not quite that straight forward.

    Lewis & his manager/promoter Frank Maloney turned down a career high purse to face Bowe after being offered a similar split to that which Bowe & Newman accepted to face Holy.

    Lewis/Maloney kept on stalling negotiations until enough time had elapsed that the WBC were poised to strip Bowe, so they threw the belt in the trash.

    Newman had a long running beef with the WBC & Don King, mainly based on them refusing to give Bowe a decent ranking & having the likes of Adilson Rodrigues ranked higher.

    Incidentally, in 1996 Lewis-Bowe was all agreed & ready to happen after the McCall fight but Lewis got knocked out & the fight never happened.
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are 28 names on that list. I would have a lot less to question had he taken on seven of them, but he didn't.
     
  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've already did the list for Lewis. Would you like me to do Vittles list the same way you did Lewis? There would be many, many more names. As far as Ali goes....there is no heavyweight that fought more top ten fighters. Sorry but you can call it hate all you want, the facts still remain. Weak resume, no ATG's, no HOF's, no career defining wins, no Byrd rematch, and no fights with 28 top ten fighters during his own time in the top ten.
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe trashed the belt first, than offered a 90/10 split (he got a 25/75 split against Holy) and than made another offer in or around '95, but at that time the Lewis camp had grown weary of them.