Team Ward: After destroying Froch again, we want Calzaghe

What this shows is that the division is not as strong as it was years ago and calling out the previous champ who hasnt fought in a division for over 5 years would be the biggest fight for the new champ.
If Ward did call out Calzaghe, you could see where he is coming from in a way, as Calzaghe left such a void in the division when he left, that Wards biggest win is an unwell, double vision suffering fighter, who was rusty and had many injuries, that Calzaghe beat when prime and undefeated.
Still best Calzaghe stays retired, otherwise Ward will have a loss on his record and it will be so clear, that it would really highlight how the division has dipped

 

Ward thinking a fight with him and Froch should be at Wembley is completely deluded, unless he means Wembley arena where ***** holds his events.

 

1.Ward said:maybe Wembley. He won`t go in Notingham whatsoever, announce me if he does.He won`t accept indoor anyway.Bute team wanted stadium but couldn`t get it not even in Nottingham.Ward was adavantaged home either, anyone is.

2.Traveling over on ocean it`s not the same as flying and landing in your own country no matter how big it is.The moral advantage knowing you`re on your own national soil is important.The difference of hour:west-coast / east coast = 3 hours; the difference of hour east-coast /England = 5 hours. So keep your mouth shut , is no way closer Atlantic City of Nottingham than to Oakland.

3.Froch want to beat Ward home cause he beat both Bute and Kessler there.There weren`t decisive problems with the judging at any of these fights.Ward is afraid of fighting conditions just as was afraid losing all his glory to Bute after the tournament.He put a shoulder at pushing Bute in England and now he says is no obligated go there.

 

For the public information I give the distances Nottingham-Atlantic City and Oakland-Atlantic City :


http://distancecalculator.globefeed...642834&fromlng=-122.2708026&tolng=-74.4229266

http://distancecalculator.globefeed...=39.3642834&fromlng=-1.1666667&tolng=-74.4229


So Nottingham is more far with 900 miles.Next time when you talk geography, you`ll think more.

 

Ward wouldn't beat a 31 year old Calzaghe maybe a 40 year old

 

We can debate with each other, we're on a forum. I apologise for the insults last time around. We wind each other up, but lets cool it on the insults, and debate in a civil manner.

I understand perfectly that a fighter can move up for a single fight. But you have to understand the position that Joe was in back then. He was a GREAT fighter, and I've never ever said otherwise. That's just a fact in my opinion. He had lots of great attributes.

But in 2001-2002, he said he wanted Roy Jones, but he'd have wanted the crown jewels to face him. That was fair enough, I would if I'd have been in his position. But the problem was, Joe wasn't well known back then outside of Europe.

So no network or promoter would have paid Joe huge money to fight Roy. You make out that Roy ducked him. But Joe was a nobody to Roy, HBO and the American fans. He was a 168 European WBO belt holder, and the American's had only seen him a handful of times against Starie, Thornberry and McIntyre. He hadn't really impressed them in those performances.

So, to get Roy in the ring, he needed to move up to 175, and go to America and impress, and move up the rankings. He could have become a mandatory etc like Woods. But he wasn't willing to do that. He didn't want to do the groundwork. He just wanted a one off fight for big money, but it was totally unrealistic. If he'd have wanted Roy as bad as he said he did, he'd have made more of an effort to get the fight.

He mentioned Roy's name after the McIntyre fight, and then continued to fight at 168 against the likes of Brewer. Fighting guys like that in Britain at 168, wasn't going to get him a fight with the worlds best fighter who fought in America at 175.

I don't how you can't see that.

Regarding Benn, The Levin's were very reluctant to deal with King, because he wanted future options on Roy. You can have the links if you wish?

 

Can you blame him for not wanting to go there after the official in the Dirrell fight ? No one has been back since that fight. Ward has never said he would not come to England for a fight. This seems to be something that is being made up but has not been said by Ward himself. The only thing he has said is he does not have to come to England.

I am wrong on the distance but it does not matter. Froch still had more fans at the location than Ward. Even still if you get on a plane it does not matter if you go over land or sea you are oblivious a plane ride is a plane ride. If you spent any time in the states you would know that different areas have different cultures and for the most part you can be treated like a foreigner by crossing a state line. Ward did not have an advantage because the fight was in the states.

Froch wanted to beat him in Atlantic city and that didn't work out for him did it ? He should have won the fight then he could make demands. As it stands he was soundly beaten and he knows it. His posturing is nothing more than a ready made excuse Ward had no advatange because the fight was in Atlantic City. As I stated before Froch had more fans and Ward had the same disadvantages if not more because of an injury. Froch does not believe he can beat Ward. If he did it would not matter to him where the fight took place. He would just want to fight. See Lennox Lewis after his loss to Hasim Rahman.

 

Based on what?

 

yeah, it was better back then. it's just that the fighters are a little bit more famous due to the coverage they get in today's division.

i thought you'd done one and wasn't coming back. haven't seen you for a while. good to know you're still around.

 

Look at this desperate hillbilly! You cant name a fighter around his weight class so your pathetic ass has to use a HW to prove a point...You deluded ****s are a funny bunch...Its gonna fun rubbing it you bitchass haters face for years to come...Ward isn't gonna get beat anytime soon!

Deal with it!

 

What if Ward moved down to MW and fought and beat Martinez? I think wins over TWO linear champions at different weight classes could make for a strong argument to put Ward at #1 P4P.

I'd like to see Ward fight Stevenson after he fights Dawson, if only to see Ward box Stevenson's ears off.

 

We talk about morality, about fair conditions or what?

I`m gonna tell you something.Based on what Ward, Direll, Taylor, and Abraham were included in a tournament of so called best SMW and Bute and WBO champion weren`t?

Why Kessler, Froch and Ward refused to fight Bute after the tournament despite fact the last two were accusing him of fighting non-relevant fighters?
Ward declared he`ll call out Bute imediately after the final to clearify it.Instead HE REFUSED TO FIGHT HIM EVEN IN OAKLAND.He said Bute has to look after him and Froch.The last refused to go in the champion`s turf no matter what.Bute HAD FOUR YEARS AND A HALF OF CHAMPIONSHIP.His team blackmailed him with remaining outside the big fights iF he doesn`t accept ALL MAJOR CONDITIONS HIS TEAM DEMANDS:England for a first fight, indoor, Notingham and smaller ring.They offered some money for it.

So he has only one chance if he wanted to fight for the peak at 168:accept all major conditions.There is a rumour, when the retreats occured at Supersix, Goosen opposed strongly at the entering of Bute.


Now you invoque the fairness of a fight in England?

 

46-0...... No blueprint.. Calzaghe UD Ward prime for prime. Calzaghe UD Ward n ow after Calzaghe in 8-10 wk camp.

 

Problem though is Ward is boring and bearly fills a phone box when he fights. Froch is showbiz and THE draw in the SMW division. He needs Froch more than Froch needs him. Froch however has no chance in beating Ward. The guy has few even close to him. GGG or Cleverly would give him a decent test.