Couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. Each and everyone of us who work will have goals to achieve. If you don't then whats the point. To be the best at what you do you have to achieve no matter what role your playing.
I disagree there Arnie if a fighter comes to a gym and lacks in several dept and you has the coach educate and improve the required skills, you as the coach have achieved your goals, its then up to the boxer to implement those skills you teach them in the gym. Hope all's well in your gym Arnie!:hi:
As a trainer you still have a specific job to achieve, and if you don't achieve this job..? the fighters performance and preparation will be affected. Its like a formula one team, the boxing coach is pretty much like the engineers. Constantly looking for ways to tactically, technically and physically to gain a edge over the competition. The athletes job is to simply listen and do as to what they are instructed, it as simple as that. Fighters that usually underachieve or suddenly start produce way below par performances start doing what..? rebelling against their coaches and anybody telling them what to do. It happened to Prince Naseem Hamed, and Audley Harrison did it throughout his whole professional career. The fact of the matter is the coaches that these guys had..? failed to achieve their goals with these athletes, or stopped achieving their goals. It does not matter who they where or what they have achieved before with other fighters, they failed. Even though boxing is a individual sport, teams are all around us. All individual sports in all sports strive to form a team, sometimes they may be the coach in the team like Linford Christie was near the end of his career! Or sometimes they me be a part of a team like Lewis Hamilton. Boxing coaches have played pivotal roles in winning and losing boxing fights. Whether it be during preparation or during the fight. Sometimes its about the psychological connection, and how well you know a fighter. Its a human sense that most normal people don't have the ability to comprehend. They may tap into it for brief moments in life and not even be aware of it. "Some of the most street wise and dangerous people, have this ability. Doormen who can walk into a room and within seconds automatically scope out the people in the room, and predict violent behaviour".... "By just one look in the street, these people can tell weather you are scared or intimated"... I honestly believe that Adam Booth saw David Haye's lack of confident and tension before the Wladimir Kiltschko fight. It is something that went un-noticed by the media and most boxing pundits all accept Johnny Nelson but..? he was soon shut up by Sky when he began to speak about during the weigh in, by maybe the powers that be at sky. I made numerous posts stated that something was wrong in training, and i picked up on psychological issues during interviews David Haye did leading up to the fight. That is all, also..? check this classic out man. [yt]okgJc3qYkhg[/yt]
Totally understand what u r saying my point is that its the coaches job to get the fighter to fight like there trained if they can, BUT say in a fight ur fighter gets a heavy knockdown but drags himself up of the canvas and wins the bout, the FIGHTER won the fight! The trainer helped in a big way BUT the fighter won, just my opinion,Remember opinions are like arse holes everyone has one.;-)
Boxing coaches have played pivotal roles in winning and losing boxing fights. Whether it be during preparation or during the fight. Sometimes its about the psychological connection, and how well you know a fighter. Its a human sense that most normal people don't have the ability to comprehend. They may tap into it for brief moments in life and not even be aware of it. Kool that was exactly what I mean, trainers have a pivotal role (ROLE) is right! The thing I'm meaning is the boxer won. The coach helped as good he could in his role.
I can see where you and Billy are coming from, but I agree with you more in that it is the fighter who succeeds as he has to fight and win the fight. The trainer walks back down them steps and when the bell rings it is down to the fighter i.e. to paraphrase Larry Holmes. Even the greatest trainers such as Ray Arcel will say that no matter how good you think you are as a trainer, if your fighter cant fight, you might as well be another bum in the park. So, for example, this premise that Gallagher cannot bring a fighter beyond Euro level etc infers that his training abilities should be questioned, it is a flawed hypothesis imho. It might have something to do with it, but his fighters so far, might not have been good enough too. Although, just as a footnote, I think Gallagher likes to hype himself like no other UK trainer i.e. UK's Wildcard, keeping tab of fights undefeated as trainer
The boxer won yes, but winning at elite level of sport takes preparation. Usain Bolt did not just turn up to the Olympics in 2008, and redefine sprinting just on his own. It took time and specific preparation, without it..? He would still be in Jamaica listening to Shabba Ranks Mr Lover man. A coaches job and goals is to prepare the boxer for competition, and then..? the end product is all down to the boxer. But its all a process and a puzzle that must be fitted together in order for success. In every sport the demise of great athletes, can always be traced back to preparation and changes in team set up and training. Mike Tyson is a perfect example, Prince Naseem Hamed, the most profound thing that affect their performance was what..? preparation. This is why boxing coaches play a pivotal role in the performance and winning and losing of fights. The world of boxing and rankings would look a whole lot different if coaches of any sort where banned from the sport. I feel like some fighters who benefit more from this new rule change than others because of their personality, knowledge and psychological make up. Others would end up fat, and completely clueless. If your fighter losers, or does not implement inside the ring what you have taught them then..? You have partly failed. Billy Nelson is achieving with Ricky Burns, the puzzle is complete each time they fight so far......JUST! they got abit lucky in there last fight.
see Ricky wasn't lucky Ricky was trained for 12 rounds physically and mentally in the gym, yes he didn't perform to his best we both accept that but a champion finds a way to win that's what Ricky done. If a boxer never followed instructions a lost then there totally to blame, what's the point in training camp for 10 weeks if you don't listen and learn from each other
Well Ricky defended a world title against Andreas Evenson,Nicky Cook and Josef Laryea so I don't see what would be so unbelievable about him fighting Crolla if he beats Rees.Its not like Ricky's some sort of World level monster he's a title holder and nothing more.
yes and Katsitas,ex champ Moses,stopped Kevin and out toughed the No1 contender, we know his last performance wasn't his best but try being in a gym for the guts of 8 months you wouldn't look your best but he got there,the next few years will be massive for Ricky Burns. the bottom line is agree or not Anthony doesnt deserve a shot at Ricky even if he beats Gavin,he doesn't bring a thing to the table it wouldn't sell IMO like the Mitchell fight did because people will remember what Derry done to him and say if he done that what would burns do! Mitchell at least came on the back of stopping a good ex euro champ in John murray
Yet again IF Ricky got closer from the 1st round he wouldn't have allowed Gonzales to control the first half. All if's and but's now are pretty irrelevant.
