Was there any improvement in Carl Froch & can he beat Ward?

Froch looked better against Bute than Kessler II, he is stronger he just didn't demonstrate any great finese. It'd be hard to beat a slick boxer who only needs to move, pick off punches & point up... hurting him and then moving into finish is Carls only hope.

Same with Ricky Burns unless the two of them can add something different to their fighting arsenal!

 

As much as I like froch I can't see him beating Ward. Ward beat the holy **** out of Dawson, proper hiding! Would love to see froch give him a good fight but if ward had a ****ed hand against froch and still beat him at a landslide, is a win for froch possible unless he hurts ward and ko's him?

 

Froch benefited from the fact that Kessler has slowed quite a bit and, as TFFP said on another thread, isn't as willing to walk through punishment to get to the inside. When he started putting shots together Froch was getting busted up. But even with all of that, Kessler was able to move out of the way, block a lot of his shots and land his right hand and left hook.

Ward's a much crisper puncher at this stage and has a lot more in the arsenal than Mikkel. There's nothing Froch can do to beat him, short of landing something monstrous while Ward is out of position or something.

 

He still gave a pretty comprehensive beating. Wards was really putting it on Froch is spurts. If he's committed to his offence for a sustained period McCracken would have pulled Carl out.

 

Ward is a pretty awkward customer styles are wrong for froch! I think ward was struggling with froch towards the end but it was a one sided fight. I don't think mcrakken would of pulled him out of that fight a lot of the damage was inflicted on froch was by wards massive head nestling in all the time. Bit naughty from ward but he seems to get away with it each fight.

 

I think Froch has improved. Not throwing as wildly as he used to. He still gets caught in no mans land but not as much as he did in the past. He also seems to get his hands up quicker too when he gets out of position. More a statement on how reckless he was rather than how great he is tbh.
Ward still a big ask for Carl.

 

That lunging right hook Carl likes to throw has got to go.

Kessler rolled it every single time but didnt manage to counter it.

 

Who thinks Froch looks invincible? :huh

 

Froch would have a great chance if it was over 15 rounds Ward was tiring allot in the first fight and Froch won the last couple of rounds.In the uk he could have a chance if Wards not the same after the injury and not at his best.I would say the fight is 80-20 in Wards favour.

 

I disagree. Froch can make those adjustments with the right trainer and the right preparation. He's a professional athlete and there's millions of dollars in, and riding on his performance. The thing Froch has going for him is how much he wants to win. He's been an athlete of habit, because he loves a good dust up. Give him professional analysis of his short comings against Ward's style, he'll put it to good use. He hasn't been aware he needed it until now. Beating Kessler must have taught him punch for punch fighting isn't smart or good for longevity in the sport. Froch is smart enough to climb this mountain to the top. I, for one, believe he can beat Ward.

 

its just a gut feeling TFFP my good man. in the Kugan interview when he was moaning for ages about Groves, I just thought he looked ill. His mood was dark too- as I say, just a gut feeling. Speaking of gut, Froch looked IMO weak to Kesslers body attacks, another sure sign of weight struggles. Hes a big man at the weight, hes in his late 30's now, the "thickening" stage as Alex Ferguson famously called it. I may be wrong, but im thinking Carl Froch is starting to find making SMW a struggle.

 

Technically..? No.

Physically..? Carl Froch is starting to resemble The Juggernaut. The Juggernaut is a marvel comic character who if allowed to gain momentum..? cannot be stopped. And the Juggernaut is invulnerable to all physical attacks, and cannot be hurt. Carl Froch is showing signs and the same characteristics of the juggernaut when it comes to physical strength and bruit force. Carl Froch is not the fastest fighter, his co-ordination and motor skills are not on the level of Roy Jones but..? what Super middle-weight on the planet can stop him..? once this man gains momentum what 168 pound fighter on the planet can generate the physical force to stop him..? Right now, as we speak i don't think it any super-middle weight can stop him. And when you have that advantage, you will always be a danger to any fighter. Physically he is in the best condition of his life, he has recorded all of his training repetitions and recovery times since the day he turned professional. At 35 yeas of age he claims to be genetically gifted, maybe he is the first of many to come..? a genetic mutation, a different kind of Warrior.

"The Cobra"...

Note: The only way to stop Carl Froch is maybe through mind manipulation and psychological attacks. I have a feeling, and i have had this feeling for some time..? that Adam Booth possesses the ability of psychological telepathic powers. Much like Dr Xavier, Adam Booth can inject his game plans and thoughts into his fighters minds. Andre Ward out boxed Carl Froch, he did not beat him up, hurt him or stop him.

 

wrong mr Kool, Andre didnt outbox Carl, he "pickpocketed" the Cobra.

 

He did not stop his momentum, or hurt him. Carl Froch seemed invulnerable to Andre Ward's physical attacks. Andre Ward has not fought or done anything since the super six final. He has had a operation to fixed his damaged body, there is a chance that Andre Ward physically is already breaking down even at this stage in his career.

All the time when Carl Froch is getting strong and still moving forward.

I still think there are physical weaknesses that Andre Ward has, he has no fooled me. At some stage somebody is going to get to him, and the wheels will fall off badly, physical melt down during a fight.

 

For me, froch looked even slower than usual and even a badly faded kessler still threw the faster sharper punches in the championship rounds.

Froch to his credit showed his iron grill again and more impressively his solid body and fitness taking some helacious blows to the body throughout the fight.

Froch might get to ward but he will take punishment doing it, and ward isnt going to be there to be hit...so i can see froch getting all frustrated and dominated. But you never know, his fitness and will is strong so if he can catch up to ward and hurt him, i think there is a small chance he could finish the job. Other than that, i can't see him beating ward on points