What I mean is, someone fought (usually the more talented relative) and got outclassed but managed to later save face - or at least glean some petty vindictive satisfaction - by thrashing another member of their clan, typically on a far lower rung of the ladder in the sport. Far more often you hear about one boxer avenging the loss of a relative. I'm talking about the inverse of that - where an individual avenges himself on a family rather than a family on an individual. Examples of what I mean: Paulie Malingaggi - the Cotto brothers (lost to Miguel by UD, beat Jose Miguel by UD 5 years later) James Broad - the Frazier brothers (lost to Marvis by UD, knocked out Rodney 3 years later) Dwight Muhammad Qawi - the Spinks brothers (lost to Michael by UD, knocked out Leon 3 years later) Eddie Gonzales - the Tubbs brothers (knocked out by Tony, beat Nate by SD 4 years later) Prayat Sawai-ngam - the Pacquiao brothers (knocked out by Manny, knocked out Bobby 2 years later) ...any more? :think Examples of the exact opposite, the more traditionally recognized phenomenon of "getting one back for your blood": Johnny Tapia knocked out Jorge Barrera and lost a UD to Marco Antonio Barrera (who used him like a heavy bag for combo practice) 5 years later. Corrie Sanders knocked out Wladimir Klitschko and was stopped by Vitali Klitschko (landing 60% of his power punches) a year later. Grover Wiley retired Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. and was knocked out by Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (pulverized with spiteful body shots) 2 years later. Austin Trout beat Rigo Alvarez by UD and lost to Saul Alvarez (dropped in the bargain) by UD 2 years later Etc. There are some I expected would turn up examples of revenge in either direction, but didn't. For example, brothers Gene and Don Fullmer had a long overlapping period both operating at the highest world level at middleweight. They did have a common opponent in Dick Tiger, but Gene went 0-2-1 and Don 0-1 against him. Carmen Basilio and his nephew Billy Backus could have conceivably had common opponents, with Basilio retiring in 1961 at middleweight (but having competed at welter until the late 50's) only months before Backus' debut - but nope. Yori Boy Campas fought both Macho Camacho Sr. and Jr. to a draw and SD loss respectively, so it doesn't really count as Jr. "avenging" his dad. Hussy and Skinny Hussein were a bit too far apart in weight to have any common opposition. Likewise Walter Dario & Lucas Martin Matthysse (although I wouldn't rule out LMM moving up another weight class or two and eventually being fed Kermit Cintron and scoring a brutal KO to avenge Walter)
Right, so that was the more conventional order where the "superior" kinsman gets vicarious revenge for a past slight against the inferior. The cliche would be an older brother punishing whoever bullied his kid brother (Vitali getting Sanders for Wladimir)...or a young rising star giving closure to his journeyman sibling (Canelo getting Trout for Rigo; Manny getting Soto for Bobby if that had ever materialized...) or a son righting the wrong done to his badly shot father by someone who never would've stood a chance in their prime (Jr. getting Wiley for JCC) I'm kind of looking more for the other way around, since it seems to be rarer.
Wladimir gets TKO'ed by Purrity. Vitali Klitschko avenged him. Wladimir gets KO'ed by Sanders. Vitali avenged him. Vitali loses to Byrd, Wladimir avenges him. ----------------------------- Jeff Mayweather gets beat by De La Hoya, Mayweather Jr avenges him.
never knew that. good to know :good this is a very interesting thread, i cant seem to think of any situations like that on top of my head. i usually find that for brothers in boxing (aside from the klitchkos) one brother does A LOT better and gets more recognition than the other. e.g arturo gatti was bigger than joe gatti and the obvious one Manny Pacquiao bigger/better than Bobby Pacquiao
I thought for sure there would be one case between the Baer brothers but there is no case which meets this threads' standards. All I could find was: -Max and Buddy both stopped Tony "Two Ton" in the 7th round, in that order just 2 years apart -Max lost to Louis once by KO, years later Buddy lost once by KO and once by DQ I'm surprised Buddy never faced any common opposition with Max given their careers lined up for a good part of them, at least. Especially given that Buddy spent a little while among the top 10 HW's. edit: And I know what the thread is about, but you have to look into the family members to find the man who avenged or attempted to avenge his defeats on the family. So it's worth pointing out.