Mike Tyson .Vs. Sonny Liston

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****!
     
  2. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Tyson KO 7 Liston. Sonny too slow of hand and foot to deal with a young Tyson.
     
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  3. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    But could Tinkerbell handle teh Listless Liston hook what shattered Glassy Cleveland Williams shamefully shatter-prone jaw twice in a row? :think


    Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:hat
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Ummmm, yeah, he would. Tinkerbell's chin is more proven than Liston's.
     
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  5. Foreman Hook

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    XPERT-post m8.:deal:deal:deal


    Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  6. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    no, Tyson is too fast for Liston. Too fast, big and powerful. Yes Liston was big and powerful too. Sure he could of been more powerful than Tyson, personally I wouldn't agree but its a fair comment. Regardless, Tyson was POWERFUL and FAST. Huge difference.
     
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  7. janitor

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    I have often fancied that Liston was something of a stylistic foil for Tyson.

    One thing that Liston was very good at, was using an offensive fighters forward momentum against them. His plan in this fight would be to create a killing ground and wait for Tyson to obligingly walk onto it.

    So I would call this fight for Liston, but I probably wouldn’t venture any money on the outcome.
     
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  8. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It IS glover! Sammy Scaff and Sonny Liston. Oh, my giddy aunt! You are deffo a wind up merchant.
     
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  9. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Slipping Listons Jab and coming inside. perhaps would not deliver the same results for Tyson, that slipping The Jabs of other, "non-predatory" Fighters Tyson Met Like Tubbs, Thomas, Biggs, Etc, achieved, Liston would probably Prey for an Inside Fight, Ok Give him a few Extra Inches Punching Room.

    Sometimes Mike Does not keep working when up Very Close, (As a Frazier Would) and with his feet often too close together he can be pushed back as Holyfield Showed, I actually Do not have complete faith in Either to Grit it out if things start to go against them to any great degree, Unlike against mobile Boxers who they will, all being well, believe that they can ultimately catch up with and despatch, but in this match, both would recognise the other as a Heavy Density Predator , who doesn't let wounded prey off the hook, but destroys it in Brutal quick order !

    Sometimes when tyson feels threatened he seems to up the Trash Talk, But would he Tell Liston he was going to make him his Girlfriend ? somehow i doubt it, i think they both spoke each others language, Liston with looks more then words, and intimidation will not work, this one would have to be won through deed, and is it not beyond the bounds of possibility that Tyson might implode mentally and commit some horrendous Foul ? or Liston if he starts to take a consistent Battering might Mentally Fold as opposed to Physically, with the Physical Fold to Follow ? Both are Great "On Top" fighters its when one Slips behind that the uncertainty begins, Tyson would probably be Favoured by the Younger Follower with Perhaps The Older Follower Favouring Liston ?

    I would feel that Tyson would be made the overall Bookies Favourite, But in which case i would fancy an upset, i think a young - pre championship Liston has the determination to Make Tyson Work and Take him to the Middle rounds, as i can see a lot of clinching and mauling, with each Fighters Bomb runs being Sporadic and Short Lived, as Tyson Tires Liston may find His Jab Starts to become much more Effective. once Liston is Comfortable with the Pace, i Can See Tyson Winding Down Somewhat, and as Liston feels his Second Wind coming on, i can See him maintaining the pace and Keeping the Action Steady , but steady in his Favour, Like perhaps his fight with Machen, It may depend on how a tiring Tyson keeps it together as to whether he hears the final bell or not, if he starts Stumbling in Throwing Single shots before falling into a Clinch, i think Liston would at some stage catch him coming in for perhaps an 8th Round ko,

    Tyson was reputed to be at his best in the Spinks Fight, BUT was spinks really that much of a barometer that night, Mercury may not freeze but Spinks surely did ! so once again Tyson had enjoyed things so very much his own way, But what would happen if this young Man-Child couldnt intimidate his young strong opponent, and started taking his own medicine from the Stoney Faced one ?

    If we are talking about A 22 - 24 year old Tyson against a 28-29 year old Liston then Perhaps Sonny could of kept his (Embryonic ?) Inner demons in check long enough to get through the Dangerous early rounds until the Fight Settles down to a pace more Suited for Sonny ? He certainly has the strength not to be bullied, Their Both Sprinters to a degree, Tyson much the Faster, but can he stay with Liston over a Longer Distence ? Whilst it wouldn't Shock me if Tyson was to Treat Liston Like he did Frank Bruno, i would favour the Upset with perhaps a Younger Liston displaying a Discipline and fortitude not usually associated with him, perhaps unfairly because of the clay results, but this Sonny was aging and overconfident by then,

    The Younger Liston could certainly cope with tyson's Intimidation because he could understand it, he was after all a past-master himself, but i do have my doubts as to whether the perhap more all-round Talented Tyson, - But A ManChild in his Acredited Prime, - could hold it together mentally when he finds himself on the receiving end from Liston !

    Truth to tell, if they both just cut loose, when the Mushroom Cloud clears it could be anyone on the canvas, Tyson is an instinctual operator, but if Liston comes in behind the heavy Jab, Jams Tysons Attack Signals, puts Static in his Attic, and breeds in Tyson a sense of caution, an alien hesitancy and having to Think before firing, then Sonny could nullify any disadvantage in lack of speed and create the openings and targeting time he requires to unload successfully.

    Its easy to become seduced by Tyson on the strength of his usual unhindered output, but i feel Tyson will not be nearly so effective when he has to operate while nasty Payloads are Incoming. Not from a technical "Boxer" Remember - But from a fellow natural destroyer

    Two Bullies, Two Great "OnTop" Fighters, Man against Man Child

    Call them what you will, I could easily of been proven wrong but

    I'd Plumb for The Younger "Prime" Stoney-Faced One.
     
  10. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    right how would son win being slow and easy to read people idiots

    the comparison to sammy as far as movement is right moved almost the same way and both were way to easy to read for mike
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh no, money bumps another vs thread

    what a suprise
     
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