What makes people say Hamed wasn't prime vs Barrera?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cause he lost.

    That's what fanboys bring up when a fight isn't in his prime. Tyson vs. Douglas. Hamed vs. Barrera. Wlad vs. Brewster.

    It never stops.
     
  2. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People here pretend that Hamed was at his best perhaps because they hate him or they don't want to diminish Barrera's win. I always wonder why people feel the need to further their own agendas in all circumstances. It's about Hamed anyway, not Barrera.

    It's clear Hamed wasn't at his best regardless of what people pretend.
     
  3. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hamed was in his prime, unfortunately Barrera was a bit too good for him. Hamed could easily have continued boxing after that fight and picked up some more titles.
     
  4. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They were both about the same age and Barrera had 20 fights on Hamed and
    a lot more wars.

    Hamed simply met a better fighter and that's why he did not look his best.
    Happens all the time.
     
  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  6. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    i was around, by then he had neither the dedication nor discipline required to compete with the likes of barrera. if he had, who knows? at the time there were reports of 4am playstation sessions, he simply wasn't hungry by then.

    i'll leave the hyperbole to others.
     
  7. Flurry

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    He was made to look ordinary by barrera, the difference to his previous outings was striking and thus people came up saying he wasnt in his prime aynmore when he really had found his match and quite so.
     
  8. Trail

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    That is merely laughable...^
     
  9. doggyland

    doggyland Active Member Full Member

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    Naz v Morales is the one i wanted to see.
     
  10. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree 100%. I said before the fight that Barrera was a far superior boxer to Hamed, my only worry was the size advantage Naz had. This was negated by the counterpunching by Barrera. Don't forget, lots of other fighters had hit Hamed cleanly before this fight.

    Hamed was a great puncher with a flawed defence who was exposed by Barrera.
     
  11. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People seem to forget the fact that Barrera produced a performance that no one had seen from him before or the capability too produce. Marco was always known as a full-on tear up merchant & he surprised everyone by exhibiting all round boxing nous. It was a case of WOW!
     
  12. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    only nut-huggers say that
     
  13. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    He started to slow down. Not sure if he just got lazy, he did decline though.

    Look at his first 20 or so fights, he was like a ****ing cat, almost impossible to catch. He could cover the length of a ring in a split second. Then he stepped up in class and guys that were not too scared of his power stood their ground, like Barrera and Kelly did. I think that smashed his huge ego quite a bit.
     
  14. Expat09

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    Compare this
    ***********.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ56egHbUY0

    with this
    ***********.youtube.com/watch?v=1ISwivnhMpI
     
  15. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Hamed wasn't prime vs Barrera, the obvious follow-up question is when do people think his prime actually was?

    The angle that Hamed was unbeatable until he left Ingle and then didn't bother to train ignores several issues:



    • Hamed stepped up in competition later in his career


    • Barrera was arguably the first HOF fighter he faced, and definitely the first who was near or at his peak


    • Throughout his career, he was extended by or looked vulnerable against the better fighters he faced


    • His attitude to training was lax, and he had issues with his weight long before he left Ingle

    Hamed was probably a lesser version by the time he fought Barrera, but the fact that he was fighting his toughest opponent was at least as significant.