how do you beat maywether

In my opinion, Leonard isn't Floyd's nightmare fantasy match. It's Hearns.


Hearns could flat out box. (Was boxing Leonards ears off until he got stopped in the 14th) Plus, he was a real opportunist, and if he ever got Floyd in the slightest trouble, he could better than anyone.


Plus, he had the length, and a right hand that could end it all in one punch.

 

Watch the fight again.


Oscar tried to throw the jab, but couldn't get it off. It wasn't landing and he was paying the price for throwing it. Basically, it was taken away from him.

 

Manny circa ODH and Cotto years. He had all the tools necessary to clinch a win against JR, not only physically but mentally. They would have truly brought out the best in each other.

I firmly believe that they both have been training to fight each other for years now, the fight has just sadly never happened. But in their tip-top Prime shape, I'd probably go with Manny winning 3 out of 5 fights against JR.

 

I just don't think Manny ever had the tools. Floyd is just light years ahead of anyone Pac ever fought, and has underrated strength and punching power. Manny's workrate would suffer the same way it did against Marquez.

 

Saying Manny "never had the tools" goes against what every boxer, trainer and boxing fan (both casual and hardcore) have been debating for 5+ years now. Manny and Floyd's name have been so synonymous with each other that they're probably eligible to be legally married in a few states.

They're both beasts in their own respective rights, and they haven't faced anyone remotely near how the other is. Has Manny fought someone like Floyd? Of course not, but neither has Floyd fought someone like Manny. It's why the speculation fuels debates even to this day and will continue well into our golden years.

As for Marquez, he has the blueprint on how to neutralize Manny. He's had 4 fights now to put theory to test and it's shown. JMM and Manny have had close fights (not counting #4) and depending on what bowl of cereal I had for breakfast, I could give the fights to either fighter. But just because JMM did well against Manny does not mean Floyd would/will.

I still say Manny was and is the best candidate, and I still believe 3 out of 5 if it had ever happened.

 

By throwing jabs continuously.
Oscar was defeating Floyd easy
until he stopped jabbing.

 

Yes watch the Castillio fight. Take note that the clean scoring shots are scored by Mayweather. Take note that Castillio's shots are on Mayweather's back or just miss all together. There's a reason Mayweather got his hand raised. He deserved to have it raised. Yes Castillio rughed Mayweather up, but he did not win or deserve to win the boxing match.
This fight has been the suicide blue print for every Mayweather oppoent since. Mayweather dose not need anymore help. He's talented enough without having oppoents use the worst game plan possible.

 

1. The fight starts when the contracts are singed.
2. Be a tall lanky and strong boxer
3. Be in the best condition
4. Stay one your toes and throw Jab/Cross/Hook combos on the out side.
5. Sneak in an uppercut here and there.
6. In the early rounds concertrate on the body.
7. Hitting his arms and thighs is not a bad idea.
8. Be physical in the clinchs.
9. Keep at least one hand in a defensive poisition at all times espicilly after a clinch is broken up.
10. Keep your distance
11. Accapt your going to get hit.
12. If you see an oppurturny to score big or drop him. Take it! However keep #9 & 11 in mind.

 

I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything. I just sincerely believe that fight would have been a huge letdown with Floyd neutralizing Pac to the point of frustration, and making the fight ugly to the point of casual fans becoming extremely bored with it.


And I know that the triangle theory is irrelevant in boxing, but there was such a huge gap in Marquez and Floyd's speed, skill, power, and ring generalship in that fight, as well as size strength and reach. I think this is one of those rare instances where you have to apply it somewhat.

 

I said that for Cotto. I said his strategy should be to clinch a lot for the first 5 rounds. Lean your weight on him. Make him carry you. Tire him out. Slow him down a bit. Then move onto the body for a couple rounds. Then mix up the body and the head.

As a grappler, I know that grappling takes a different toll on your cardio than boxing/kickboxing. Not sure if that strategy to wear him out would be successful, but no one's tried it that I know of. But that would be my strategy as a heavier fighter. Make him carry my weight.

The only other strategy that I can think of is something similar to what DeLaHoya did, but more consistent and smarter. He was finding success with a jab to the body. He was finding success with flurries to the body. I figure employ a SRL strategy and jab to the body for most of the round. Stick and move. And in the last 10 seconds flurries to the body. Steal rounds. You're not going to KO PBF. You gotta strategize to out point him.

 

I just recently started visiting boxing forums, but for years I was the only one who thought the same. Glad to see that others feel the same.

 

You're wrong. Oscar threw more jabs in the 2nd half, than the 1st half.

Oscar stopped "landing" the jab. Should check your vision, you might need glasses.

 

That's why you shouldn't base your opinions on "feelings."

What actually happened was Oscar threw more jabs in the 2nd half than the 1st half of the fight, but they were no longer "landing." Check the punch statistics for yourself if you want verification.

 

Why people keep mentioning a fight from 2000/1, when Mayweather had an injured rotator cuff, as some kind of blueprint on beating him is really interesting to me.

Mayweather is not the same fighter as he was in 2000/1. Besides being physically bigger/stronger, he is far more cagey on the inside and in the clinch.

 

I disagree, I think he stopped throwing simply because he was mad and trying to take his head off instead of using smarts