New to the forum and a fairly new boxing fan. Was happy just to view the forum as a guest but after seeing that RJJ footage on the JC showboating I thought I'd sign up. I knew he was a quality fighter and a lot of fans/pundits rave about him but as I say I'm a fairly knew boxing fan and up until around 6 months ago was only a casual viewer, so not seen much of him. Anyway after seeing the footage and watching the way he demolished people and in such a style over the next few days I'm going to try and watch as much of him as possible! Can anyone recommend me some of the best fights...... Also I know from watching them on ringside that RJJ and Collins have history( or not as the problem is). What I wanted to know at the time whe Collins was champ and he wanted the fight was RJJ at his peak? And would Collins of been able to of beaten him??
On that side of the pond much is made of Jones vs. Collins not happening. Over here in the US, not so much.
As for vintage Roy performances, 1) James Toney (his best overall factoring in entertainment value and quality of the opponent) 2) Vinny Pazienza (ridiculously one-sided showcase, and Pazienza while limited was no tomato can...he was coming off having twice recently beaten aging legend Roberto Duran and had by then gotten the best of a trilogy with Haugen, dominated Honeyghan, and gone the championship distance with the murderous hitting Black Mamba at the height of his reign) 3) Montell Griffin II (avenged his first ever loss in brutal fashion, over an unbeaten slickster who prior to deflowering Jones via DQ had outpointed James Toney) Those are the "must-see"/"take 'em to a desert island" Roy Jones Jr. displays. Runners-up: Bernard Hopkins (similar quality but simply not as exciting as Toney), John Ruiz (mainly for its historical implications, a former middleweight becoming HW champ - honestly not that great a great scrap but not bad for HW standards due to Roy's speed), Jorge Vaca (another sweet picture-perfect KO1), and Mike McCallum (up there in quality with Toney and Hopkins, although he was a smaller fellow and winding down)
Rjj was different class P4p best boxer in the world and his jump through the top divisions successfully is incomparable I don't think Collins rjj was that relevant here,as Collins had British rivals and had already come up short in the US
At the time I don't remember Collins making a lot of noise about Jones Jr. Collins got sparked when training fot the Calzaghe fight and never returned to the ring on medical grounds. If he had fought Jones Jr back then it would have been a massacre. Given he is 48 Collins must be short of a few quid to want to fight Jones Jr.
Thanks for the quick response, ill watch them tomorrow on my day off. From the limited amount I've seen already this afternoon I'm just blown away by him. It must be sad to see him stil going for all you guys lucky enough to have seen him in his pomp.
He was a physical freak really, amazing to watch in his prime but he'll always have that mark over him because of the steroid use. You have to wonder if he would have been quite the same without them.
Wasn't it only the whole "ripped fuel" thing though that RRJ was involved in or was there more? I don't think he was juicing by olibamiwo standards. I may be wrong though.
Jones's ability to increase muscle mass in his quest to win the HW title certainly went against anything I have seen from clean weight trainers in my 25 years in the gym.
Bull****...Roy hired the best strength and conditioning coach in the game in Mackey Shilstone and worked very hard with raining and diet to pack on the pounds without losing his speed and agility.
Probably the closest thing to superman in a boxing ring during his prime. Shame he carried on too long.
