Which of The Ring Champions do YOU recognise as the true lineal champions.

Wladimir Klitschko is obviously the champion whether or not he fights Vitali. But he won't be considered great unless he does.

 

That's a pretty contentious claim. Khan had an extremely credible claim for being ahead of Alexander at the time of that fight. Also you'll note The Ring, whose authority you defer to throughout the entirety of this post, did not make that fight for the title.

No you do not become a lineal champion by default.

The decision of Khan-Peterson bout was never overturned. The Ring had already lost its credibility as an arbiter of linealship at the point they dropped Peterson and (shockingly!) anointed the Golden Boy fighter.

I don't even think Garcia has the sturdiest claim to being number 3 but that logic is far less tortured than the case you just presented for Khan being number 1.

Yes but it's not one I think you grasp...

 

Wladimir Klitschko should be Lineal champion for his win against Chagaev. The TBR dun goofed for not acknowledging this.

 

There certainly is....do you know what lineal means? Does anyone in this thread know what lineal means?

 

:huh Bradley was the champ. Are you ****ing stupid, it was universally recognized that Bradley was the lineal LWW champion. Khan or Alexander were second or third place.. Once Bradley beat Alexander, and seeing as how Bradley moved up, Khan was the lineal champion. It's really not that hard to understand. I'm not only going by just ring ratings, I'm going by my opinion as well.
After the controversial decision Khan had against Peterson, Peterson was inactive for a year, so how the **** was he still relevant at JWW? Danny on the other hand fought, and TKO'd Khan which made him the man in the division. He wasn't given the titles that he has, he fought and beat the champ. To secure his position as the lineal champion, he beat the guy who beat Mattyhse..
So explain to me how he isn't the lineal champ? Who would you claim is the lineal champion at JWW?

 

derrr... me thinks it means a direct line of the lineage of the true champion... derr... but I'm not sure

 

Bradley was never recognized as the Lineal 140lb champion. You have no idea what you're talking about. Go away very quickly.

 

Are you ******ed, how the **** wasn't he lineal champ after his win over Alexander? The number 1 LWW vs the number 2 or 3.. a new lineage has been created.. it's not hard to understand, ******.

 

:rofl You're the one who's the ******. The top 2 have never met to establish a new Lineage since Pacquiao left the division :hi:.

It's not simply the 1 vs 3 other than in rare, exceptional circumstances. You don't even understand how the Lineage works. Given how "it's not hard to understand" (something you actually got right); dirtydan is the "******" :finger

 

Dude, are you like blind or something? Did you not read what I just write, or understood what happened between Bradley and Alexander? Bradley was the number 1 fighter at JWW. Alexander was the unified champ and number 2 or 3 depending on how you rated them. I personally had him at number 2. The number 1 vs the number 2 or 3.. new lineage created.. which was then broken when Bradley moved up to WW.. Then Khan, being the number 1 and Garcia, being the number 3 fought.. another new lineage and the current one at JWW. Once Garcia fights Matt, then the winner will become not only the lineal, but the undisputed JWW champion of the world. It's not hard to understand bro. ****'s not rocket science, man.

 

Bradley and Khan were the clear #1 and #2, not fukkin Alexander . I just told you the #1 vs #3 doesn't establish a new Lineage. Are YOU blind or something?

You claimed Bradley was universally recognized as Lineal 140lb champion . You were wrong. You ARE wrong.

You have shown that you don't understand how the Lineage works. With your hypocrisy and rudeness on top of that, you've quickly gotten yourself into a huge mess.

 

Shiieeettt man, I get what you're saying..
Wlad not lineal champ after beating number 3 Chagaev cause his bro was number 2.

Mayweather not lineal champion at WW cause he didn't beat number 2 JMM again.

Garcia wasn't the lineal champ at FW cause he didn't beat number 2 Chris John.

Pascal was never the lineal champion at LHW cause he never beat number 2 Hopkins.

Forrest was never the lineal champion at WW after beating Mosley cause he never beat number 2 Andrew Lewis..

atsch

 

So, after being proved wrong on every point you simply drop it and move on. Ok.

Again, wrong on every point.

Wladimir is recognized as Lineal because he isn't expected to have to defeat his brother.

Mayweather beat Mosley to become Lineal champion again.

John is the #1 featherweight.

Pascal beat Dawson to win the vacant Lineal title.

Mosley was Lineal champion. Forrest beat him to win it.

It helps to at least have some clue about the subject.

 

LMFAO.. okay man. So what you're saying is that Mayweather won the lineal title from Mosley, when Pacquaio was in that weight class, was the number 1 Welterweight, and had already beat Cotto and Clottey?

And Pascal was lineal champion after beating Dawson when Hopkins was still in that weight class and was at number 2?

How the **** was Mosley the lineal champion when fighting Forrest? The WW lineal championship broke when Trinidad beat Oscar and moved up to JWW. Then Mosley jumped from Lightweight to WW to fight Oscar.. Oscar was number 1, but Mosley had 1 tune up fight before Oscar against a journeymen?. So what the **** are you talking about, dude?

Honestly you don't even know what you're talking about dude. So why the **** am I arguing with you.

 

Good grief. You're even dumber and more clueless than I thought.

Mosley was Lineal champion, then Mayweather won it from him. How is that even the slightest bit difficult to understand?

Pascal and Dawson were #1 and 2 when they boxed. You aren't even aware of the rankings.

De La Hoya and Mosley were #1 and 2 when they met at 147lbs, which started a new Lineage. How can you NOT understand that??

Do I really have to educate you on every single point you make??? :roflatsch

You came in to this thread with a bad attitude and a complete lack of knowledge and understanding. Calling people "******s" and asking if they were "****ing stupid", while every opinion you've typed has been wrong. You've made a complete fool of yourself.

Then you've got the audacity to sign off with saying *I* don't know what I'm talking about??? What an absolute idiot. Shocking levels of stupidity and hypocrisy. I've forgotten more about this stuff than you will ever know.