So Groves v Froch is on

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  1. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Been told by a member on here that it looks set for the 23rd of November!

    Who wins and How?

    I know most people are going to say Froch will walk through him but i believe that Adam Booth and Groves may have something up there sleeve?
     
  2. JonnyBGoode

    JonnyBGoode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves out boxes Froch for the first 8-9 rounds then gets tired and gets stopped late, similar to Taylor.
     
  3. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Groves is dangerous quick hands very good power he may just be up there with the biggest hitters in the division. But he doesnt do anything Carl hasnt seen before and hes been rattled by the likes of Anderson and De Gale neither who punch as hard as Froch. I see it being a bit of chess match early untill Froch manages to slow Groves down at that point its whos got the better chin and tuffness and thats Froch - If Groves boxes and moves lands power shots sensibly with out getting dragged into a shoot out he can win but i just think Froch is a level above. Froch might sharpen yup his body attack for this one we have seen him stop guys with one shot b4 and Groves was put down in sparing V froch from one i can see something simelar happening
     
  4. JonnyBGoode

    JonnyBGoode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves' power isn't proven at a high level and Froch has arguably the best chin boxing.

    I don't think Froch will be too worried about Groves power but I do think that Groves footwork and movement will trouble him early on especially. After a while Froch will just out tough him, turn it into a nasty war and just beat him up. Probably when he senses the fight is slipping away in terms of rounds in the bag.

    Froch will want to show the UK fans that he's harder then Groves, he'll want to get in his face and show who the stronger man is in the ring.
     
  5. flat1234

    flat1234 New Member Full Member

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    Yep 23rd november in Manchester eddie hearn will announce on tuseday
     
  6. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I reckon it will be an all out war, i dont think Groves has anything to lose in this fight who cares about the 0.
    Hes beaten Degale and Johnson both very good fighters and knocked out brutally the also rans such Sierra,Smith,that fella he last fought lol and Anderson, I would of preferred him to box Bika or Steiglitz next but this fight is a good payday and im sure he will get one of them if he loses to Froch.
     
  7. smegmaa

    smegmaa Undefeated Champ Full Member

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    Surely it'll be at the 02? Manchester makes no sense whatsoever, there's two ways this ends: Froch by KO or Groves on points
     
  8. Geddy Lee

    Geddy Lee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Carl will win late stoppage, night even put a wager on it. I think Groves chin looks a little suspect and i think he knows it.
     
  9. flat1234

    flat1234 New Member Full Member

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    That what i was told at first but apparently its in manchester. Must be because its the biggest arena nearest to nottingham?
     
  10. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if its in London the crowd will be too pro Groves for Eddies liking, like the Degale fight
     
  11. JonnyBGoode

    JonnyBGoode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves is NOT going to come for an all out war, Adam Booth is going to be telling him to do the exact opposite of that!

    He was reluctant to go to war with average punching Degale and didn't want to get close to him but you reckon he's going to wade into Froch hands down?!

    The problem here for Froch is that they have the same low left hand style, it's who gets the jab off first and Groves is quicker and younger and has better footwork. I think Froch will try and do what he did with Kessler and box but after having limited success will just go to Plan B of rough him up and just open up on him with shots until he cracks.

    Booth's plan will be continual movement side to side, confuse Froch, keep him moving all the time so those 35 year old legs get tired and he gets sloppy, he'll tell Groves to be in and out with flurries based more on speed than power.
     
  12. KidFrankie

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    Groves seems like a man now and more rough, compared to when he looked like a weaker teenager early on.

    And haye and adam have both said he spars davids heavys and doesnt let them bully him.

    I personally think he will do a simlar technical job like ward and dirrell did to him!
     
  13. JonnyBGoode

    JonnyBGoode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves can't fight like Ward, he just doesn't know how, Ward is all about timing people coming in and landing the sneaky shots then tying them up. Groves has never done that in his life to anyone and doesn't box remotely similar to that style.

    If he wins it will be boxing on the back foot points victory and I'd say the chances of him doing that for 12 rounds with Froch chasing after him like an animal are quite slim. Only Dirrell and Ward and Taylor have out boxed Froch really, I don't think Kessler did in the first fight they just stood in front of each other. Groves will defeat himself in this fight trying to mix it up, he likes to fire back when he gets hit, he has the hot headed ginger thing going on and it will be his undoing in this fight.
     
  14. andrebishop

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    if its def that date theres something on at the o2 that night theres nothing on at the MEN
     
  15. power_aids

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    going to be a great fight, Froch wins but i think Groves has a good future ahead of him... like a few have said Booth will have a plan.. But i think Groves ego will get in the way and will want to trade shots to prove his just as much of a man as Froch. Stil looking forward to it !