Andre Dirrell - very underrated

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Danish Dawg, Jul 26, 2013.


  1. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not forgetting that he legitimately knocked Abraham down aswell.

    But his mental state is that of a child. He is a waste of talent
     
  2. Danish Dawg

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    A waste of talent, yes, but he has definetely turned into the big question mark of the SMW division. There will always be a reason to ask: "Just how good was Dirrell? Was he or Ward the true number 1?".

    I personally think that Ward is better, but I could see Dirrell win, too, due to Dirrell's longer arms and bigger punching power than Ward's, while still being very fast and skilled.
     
  3. FutureChampGG

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    If anything he's overrated.

    He hasn't proved anything; I mean what is his best win? A DQ win over Abraham?

    He has nothing of any real note on his resume yet people put him up there with Ward based on what he could have or might have been. He doesn't deserve to be in that sort of conversation; he's not done or shown anything to be anywhere near that bracket.
     
  4. Danish Dawg

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    Read the opening post, my friend, the answer to your question is written there,
     
  5. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think he is a great fighter.....but more of a waste of talent
     
  6. yeyo monster

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    and yeah i think he had the skills to beat anyone at 168
     
  7. Danish Dawg

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    It's good that people here are able to be honest. I really don't like Dirrell and, for political reasons, it often annoys me when Americans shows pride in their country, but not because I hate American people, I love them, but it's because of political reasons and what America is commiting of war crimes around the world. Yet I got two eyes and one brain and it tells me that American boxers through times have seemed better than Europeans most of the time. I like the tough guy Froch, who has proven himself many times, a lot more than I "like" Dirrell, but fact is, Dirrell just IS that good.
     
  8. Talivar

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    If you are going to talk about what ifs then why only focus on Dirrels positives?, why not include his lack of heart or desire because they are far more instrumental in deciding how far he could have gone. The reality is he would lose to most of the top fighters because he has no true desire to win and crumbles under pressure. All people talk about is a robbery vs Froch and a masterclass vs AA, the reality is that was Froch at his worst and in the AA fight the tide had started to turn in the later rounds. Why not talk about the way Dirrel lost the fight himself due to his antics vs Froch? or how Dirrell ducked Ward ect ect
     
  9. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lack of heart?? yo he is a boxer....i wonder i you will ever have the guts to be in the ring. he beat froch...he beat AA...and he didint fought ward because theu are really close friends.....i understand that and i know that for a fact...because i have been boxing since im 15 years old and i will never fight my brother in a real fight
     
  10. Talivar

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    Lots of jobs need heart or guts. He lost to Froch due to his negative style of running away and falling over, he then faked an injury vs AA. An in jury so bad it caused damage to the brain and meant he could not box anymore, cept he did. If you are going to talk about Dirrell you HAVE to talk about the negatives aswell as the positives otherwise you just look Bias or Stupid, Same for every boxer.
     
  11. Danish Dawg

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    If you read my opening post, you will see that the only one I blamed for Dirrell's lack of success is himself. I focused on the bad points just as much as I focused on the good points.
     
  12. Talivar

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    But if you do accept the bad points then you need to accept they havent magically vanished, so to try imagine future match ups they need to be considered as well. To me Dirrell had exceptional abilities but also a very poor mental attitude so any future fight would be determined by his own ability to control that mental attitude, if he could then he had potential to win vs many top fighters, if he could not then he had potential to lose vs may not so top fighters.
     
  13. Danish Dawg

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    Well... Until he loses a match due to his seemingly weak mind, then let's hold back the theories and look at what we actually KNOW, which is what this thread is going by.
     
  14. Talivar

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    But he has lost, he lost to Froch, he lost to Ward before the fight was even made, and has lost every single day since his comeback by not signing a fight.
     
  15. Danish Dawg

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    Rational fans thinks Dirrell was robbed, even I think that, and I'm a Froch fan. That wasn't a true loss.

    He haven't lost to Ward until they've fought and he's at the losing end of the match.