British Forum BETTING thread

****in stieglitz the daft ****

 

I was on Selby to win by tko/ko, he was absolutely no where near hurting Simion. **** bet tbh. Selby has overrated power really.

 

steiglitz is so poor. the cut wasn't caused by a headbutt was it? so im not sure why they went to the scorecards

 

steiglitz will be hard to beat in germany because he gets away with holding

 

Broke my own rules and lost out on 130 pounds as a result

I always take not to go distance instead of backing a fighter to win by stoppage. Less odds but safer

So, I back Brook fight not to go distance, Matthews fight not to go distance and steigletz ko/tko.

£20 would ave paid £150

The worst thing is, I added steigletz last minute as my main aim was the double

Also, fcuk ladbrokes!! They have not to go distance on website but not on their phone. what the fcuk is that about?

 

I had Derry, Brook and Selby all to win so I'm happy with last night,

 

Thinking about putting £1000 on Mayweather to win by decision. I can't see Mayweather stopping Alvarez, but I'm fairly confident in Mayweather taking a decision. What do you guys think?

 

what are people thinking this weekend with clev and barker?

 

both fighters are outsiders in betting and both have a great chance iam doing 2 singles and a double so if one wins which i expect i make a small profit and if both win i get all 3 bets up

 

Geale is 5/1 for a stoppage. I think that is a decent bet considering some have mentioned Baker has been possibly suffering back pain..

 

Haven't looked up the odds yet but would guess a double of Barker and Clev both on points would be reasonable.

 

where did u get those odds from mate?

 

I asked in a few bookies the price of barker to win and clev to win by decision best quote I got was 5/1 at bet Fred not a big gambler so £10 on the double for me. Just to have that extra bit of interest really. Really fancy Clev to beat Kovalev though so might just do a £20 single on him to win by decision

 

Having a lucky 15 on Clev points, barker points, macarinelli outright and Steven smith outright.

 

Tale of the tape:

Cleverly Kovalev
Age 26 30
Stance O O
Height 187cm 183cm
Reach 74" 73"
W/L/KO% 26/0/46% 21/0/86%


I would like to get some views on Kovalev, who comes with a great reputation for his aggressive starts and ruthless nature when finishing of his opponents.

If your a Boxing fan, you are probably already familar with 'Clev'. His level of opposition is questionable to say the least with his two best victories coming against Tony Bellew (close fight) and Karo Murat who was down for fighting Hopkins not so long ago. But you can also say the same for Kovalev. I have a feeling if Sergey was born in Britain we would be just as cynical towards him as we are towards the Welshman. Let's face it we all fall the grass is greener line some of the time and it is this attitude that is influencing the odds at the moment:

Coral- Kovalev 10/11
Betfair- ' ' Evens
PP- ' ' 4/5
Bwin ' ' 4/5

At the time of writing this I notice there appears to have been some significant lays on a Kovalev win on Betfair, which is my pick for this bout. The reasoning behind this decision revolves around three arguments. The first one is experience; looking at the stats you might be thinking there is very little difference between the two in terms of how many fights they both had. However when you look at rounds completed:

Kovalev: 57
Cleverly: 171

And yes I am aware that power punchers will naturally fight less rounds then feather fisted types like Cleverly but again we have to take into account the level of opposition also. Earlier on I mentioned the opposition of Cleverly; Bellew and Murat are B level fighters at best. I would argue that the likes of a badly faded Campillo and a distinctly average White are C level opponents, these are the Russians two biggest wins.

The second argument is styles. Take a look at the Campillo/White fights on YouTube and you will see that they both are very stationery, somewhat slow, stand up fighters. When a guy like Kovalev gets a chance to load up on his punches, he will take it. I think the problem he will have on the weekend is that Cleverly is more aggressive then the style of opponents Kovalev has been use to facing. Additionally, Cleverly has a very good chin and fantastic conditioning. If Kovalev fails with Plan A, which is essentially trying to catch the champion early then he will be in a situation he has never been in before. To summarise, the perception that it is Cleverly who is the unchallenged Boxer is false.

Finally, let's consider who is making this fight. Frank ****** is a shrewd matchmaker, whatever you think of him on other issues you have to concede he very rarely gets it wrong when matching his fighters. The only mistake that comes to mind is Khan vs Prescott, although it was Khan's coach at the time that suggested Prescott as an opponent.

Lay Kovalev 11/8 Betfair