Apparently Wladimir is the Undisputed Champ... Question is, Who Killed Vitali?

The three old belts WBC + WBA + IBF, the absence of one of these belts make your title reign disputed.

The other belts are new plenty and fringe, after all Vitali is the WBC champ for a good damn reason!

 

Winning all four titles isn't easy to do, Vitali beat Samuel Peters for the WBC title but Wlad had already fought and beat Samuel Peters.

Haye won three titles at cruiser weight but O'neil bell didn't lose the IBF title in the ring before the Mormeck rematch. Cunningham picked up the vacant IBF.

 

it is basically impossible to unify 3 of the 4 belts much less 4 of the 4 plus he has The Ring belt so he is undisputed. Deal with it.

How many fighters have held all 4 belts plus the Ring belt at once? Hopkins is one. Any others?

 

I can only think of RJjr. off the top of my head, it aint easy, and the WBC makes near impossible

 

Jones never had the WBO because he was scared to fight DM. His WBA and IBF belts also belonged to DM.

Hopkins is the only guy that I know of that held the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, Ring belt at the same time.

 

The WBO belt was never required to become undisputed.
K2 changed the rules but the rules wont be changed for them. Deal with it.

 

everybody seems fascinated by toughness and strong chins.

Ever since they both turned pro, everybody considered Wlad to be the talented and better brother and tipped him to rule the division; They were right!

In reality Wlad does everything better then his older brother, he's stronger, he's faster, he has more power and ultimately he has a much better resume.

Wlad's been ruling the division with an iron fist before his brother even came back from retirement.

 

That isn't the argument ******. I simply was asking who other than Hopkins has had all 4 belts + The Ring belt at the same time.

 

What the Klitschko's are doing is a brother act which I used to think was cool. Vitali holds the WBC belt which by some is regarded the 'true' world title. Wlad holds all the rest.

Recently I have come annoyed with Vitali Klitschko though. He just sits on the belt being a part time fighter and does not fight any top competition. And he just does not fight enough. The best guy he did recently fight was Chisora. Who at that point was vastly inexperienced.

So it used to be two Eastern European giants who ruled the division but now its has become just one with the other sitting on the belt, holding on to it as long as he can by just fighting as little as he can and when he does not making any interesting fights.

But Vitali will keep sitting on the belt. Because lets paint it like this: What if he releases the WBC belt and lets say Wilder picks up the belt? Then what? What will happen is that there will be a big strong American heavyweight holding the 'true' WBC world title, and he will be knocking out guys in spectacular fashion. With a good promotional team and a big media campaign in no time he will be painted like the true heavyweight champion of the world to the mainstream public. This will create big business trouble for the Klitschko's.

By Vitali sitting on te WBC belt all roads lead trough the Klitschko's and they call the shots.

 

Yea your right, forgot in that the other belts were the WBF and IBA he held along side WBA,IBF,WBC,IBO at light heavyweight.

 

Calm down Rosie. I wasn't even referring to you.

 

Nobody with half a brain can claim Vitali is actually better than Wlad; he hold a belt only because Wlad let him to when he came back to boxing, otherwise he would hold no one.
Look at his fight against Mariusz Wach, and you'll understand why Vitali would and should have never fought his lil' bro.

 

It looks like Vitali might announce his retirement this autumn. If he does, the WBC belt will fall into hands of one of the three: Stiverne, Haye or Fury and eventually the pressure will be on Wlad to fight the new WBC beltholder regardless of whether that belt will be on the line or not due to the unclear unification policy of that org. As of now I consider Wlad to be the undisputed champ.

 

That is the whole point of being Undisputed, when you OWN everybody & your complete dominance is no longer DISPUTED

Its not supposed to be Easy :yep

 

Wlad has the IBF/IBO/WBO/WBA/Ring Magazine belt

he is the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world.