Nathan Cleverly, Modern day Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you actually for real. Calzaghe clearly beat Kessler more convincingly. There was nothing in the last Kessler vs. Froch fight, the score cards were a disgrace.
     
  2. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You will get some sh*it for this, but you are basically right. Calzaghe was good but nothing more.

    Those who think Calzaghe would beat prime Jones, Hopkins or Toney are the same people who though Cleverly had a chance against Kovalev, or that Kessler was going to KO Ward. Just flag waving fanboys who don't understand what it is they see in the ring so instead base their opinions on where a fighter comes from or what the press tells then to think.

    What happened to Cleverly tonight is what would have happened to Calzaghe if he decided he "didn't want tough fights" and took on Jones or Hopkins when it mattered.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded and knows nothing about boxing.
     
  3. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    No comparison what so ever, the only remote similarly was they both have a high work rate.

    For a start, Joe was a southpaw.
     
  4. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Simple question.

    Do you think Calzaghe vs prime Jones would result in anything other than a Jones KO victory?
     
  5. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes I do. Becuase Calzaghe had a good chin and excellent recovery power. Therefore a fight between Prime-Jones and Calzaghe could have gone the distance - like Jones's fight against Castro, Hopkins, Toney, McCalum, Del Valle, Telesco, Johnson and Gonzalez did.
     
  6. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    calzaghe used to spar with clev and even clev will tell you he couldnt get a punch on calzaghe.
     
  7. bowerboy

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    Totally agree

    There will always be a question mark over Calzaghe for me....Cleverly was over hyped same as David Price.

    So true that people, and beits more so than others, base their opinions on what they are told to believe by the press or where a person is from.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dont be silly. Nathan has now had 7 title fights including an interim one. In Calzaghes first 7 world title fights he had beaten Eubank and Reid who had been SMW champs and were top 10 fighters, beat Sheika who was top 10 and coming off a win over prime G Johnson, beaten top 10 Starie who had taken C Woods 0.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What question marks?
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are aware that it was Hopkins that didnt want to face Calzaghe arent you?
     
  11. bowerboy

    bowerboy Active Member Full Member

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    Question mark is that he held a very inferior version of the title for so long and really only fought over the hill guys with the exception of Kessler who is good but certainly nothing in the big scheme of things.

    No way was B Hop prime when Calzaghe beat him..no way regardless of what B Hop has achived since.
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  13. bowerboy

    bowerboy Active Member Full Member

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    Why didnt Joe fight Tarver, Wright or Pavlik?
     
  14. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wright was too small and Joe fought Hopkins who schooled Tarver and Pavlik. None of those guys were in his wight division anyway.
     
  15. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Wtf is the TS smoking? Cleverly is to Calzaghe what a fvcking pick up truck is to a Ferrari.

    The only thing they have in common, is both are Welsh.