So who have the real physical advantages tomorrow?

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  1. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd who tipped the scale at 150.5 (Basically the same weight as he did with Oscar years ago) or Canelo who is a full fledge JMW but "weigh in" 152, having to lose two extra pounds?

    Who will be stronger tomorrow?
     
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  2. Magges

    Magges Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course Canelo will be stronger, he will have 15-20 pounds on Mayweather
     
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  3. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Canelo has the size advantage and is probably stronger. I'd imagine he hits a little harder as well. Floyd's clearly faster and more agile and has a longer reach, so they both have physical advantages over each other.
     
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  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if he was drained as these fake fans suggest he's fighting a guy who weighs 150 lbs, can Canelo not handle a welterweight all of a sudden?
     
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  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    guys drain themselves all the time but if they drain against Floyd is different. :deal

    Look at Chavez jr. draining 20lbs and damn near ko Martinez. Margo drains 15-20lbs often and bullies. Canelo who drains himself every fight 15-20lbs bullies Lopez.
     
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  6. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know why they are doing it? Because people gave **** to a certain fighter who i dont need to mention his name for doing it for the longest. Simple as that. I don't care who fights at catchweights. I didnt about pac doing it, didnt care about dawson ward an now I dont care about mayweather canelo catchweight. It is what it is.
     
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  7. TecateisBoxing

    TecateisBoxing I will ALWAYS love Boxing Full Member

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    I still don't understand how a person can gain 20 lbs overnight?
     
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  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bc they cut water weight.

    For example:
    You got two guys who both competes in the same weight class of 154lbs. Fighter A is fully hydrated at 154lbs and doesn't need to cut water weight to make the weight limit. And Fighter B is cutting out as much of water weight as possible to make the weight limit to make 154lbs but in reality he is a natural 170lbs or more guy.

    A lot of fighters does this to gain a size advantage over their opponents. They pack on muscle going into camp and systematically gauge their ability to make the weight so when they rehydrate they would be almost at peak condition during camp. Of course they would be weaken a little for cutting the weight but overall they have a sizable advantage.
     
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  9. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yet another catchweight thread by a ***** trying to convince himself that the catchweight was more beneficial to Canelo:lol:
     
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  10. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who said that catchweight will benefit Canelo?
    It call the middle ground. Floyd has proven to be ineffective at 154 and can easily fight at 147.
    Canelo got plenty of advantages in terms of size, youth, and strength.
    His haters just want something to ***** about as always.
     
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  11. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Canelo will be much bigger and much stronger.. I think Floyd has to move alot and pot shot to win!
     
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  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    You don't just cut fat or water without cutting some muscle too; it doesn't work that way.

    Doing a ton of cardio will also burn muscle (which is why bulky, cartoonish looking fighters with great stamina is a big red flag for PED use). That's also why marathon runners are so emaciated looking. And, it's why you rarely see fighters move down in weight successfully.

    What that means is that, although Alvarez didn't look terrible at the weigh-in, there's a good chance his strength will be compromised. If it wasn't, I still wouldn't pick him to win, but it is what it is.
     
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  13. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    but what about the fact that it's only a little over a pound less than what canelo weighed in his last fight vs trout or that canelo won his JMW title at 151?
     
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  14. Papa Lazarou

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    Canelo was younger then his body was still growing.
     
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  15. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The guy with the height and reach advantage?
     
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